Hello everyone,
We had a consultation with a construction company that builds the shell of the house themselves and contracts out additional services for the turnkey construction to third parties.
The company offers everything from submitting the building permit / planning permission, architectural services, structural engineering, tendering and awarding contracts, as well as construction supervision.
This is nothing unusual so far.
The difference from a "general contractor" is that this company does not want to act as the contracting party to the third parties. Instead, a separate contract is made between the homeowner and each subcontractor for every trade and company.
The advantage of this approach is that each trade’s warranty is covered by a different company. In other words, if one company goes bankrupt, only part of the warranty would be affected.
Since I have not heard of this before, I’d like to ask a few questions here. :o
Is this approach known to anyone?
What are the pros and cons from your perspective?
Has anyone built a house this way?
We had a consultation with a construction company that builds the shell of the house themselves and contracts out additional services for the turnkey construction to third parties.
The company offers everything from submitting the building permit / planning permission, architectural services, structural engineering, tendering and awarding contracts, as well as construction supervision.
This is nothing unusual so far.
The difference from a "general contractor" is that this company does not want to act as the contracting party to the third parties. Instead, a separate contract is made between the homeowner and each subcontractor for every trade and company.
The advantage of this approach is that each trade’s warranty is covered by a different company. In other words, if one company goes bankrupt, only part of the warranty would be affected.
Since I have not heard of this before, I’d like to ask a few questions here. :o
Is this approach known to anyone?
What are the pros and cons from your perspective?
Has anyone built a house this way?
Hello Building Expert
Best regards
Bauexperte schrieb:Planner and independent construction supervisor!
...Who prepares the required calculations? Who handles the tenders? Who checks the incoming progress payments from the contractors? Who supervises the work? Who takes responsibility for the thermal insulation certificate and completes *at the beginning*, for example, the 153 form, which banks financing the project usually require and must be confirmed before moving in? And, and, and ...
Bauexperte schrieb:It doesn’t have to be, those are rather exceptions. Nevertheless, the concept of a half general contractor (1/2 GC) to achieve the overall result is very effective, even if not as convenient as a full general contractor (1/1 GC).
...That is - theoretically - correct. However, not every client is suitable as a self-builder, and building the shell structure in EL may not be an option for everyone...
Bauexperte schrieb:It’s rather the opposite. As is well known, extremes rarely lead to success; the real truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
...You have - sorry, in my humble opinion - focused too much on clients who are unwilling to pay a fair price for decent work. I often read this from you when it comes to MEP costs.
Bauexperte schrieb:Everyone must find their own path according to their convictions. How sustainable this is in the market remains to be seen. I believe I am moving in the middle ground I mentioned ;-)
...Remember, we once emailed about how, in my opinion, your pricing strategy will catch up with you eventually ... from another MEP planner who is somewhat cheaper. It’s a treadmill - once started, it has no brakes.
Bauexperte schrieb:Very true, now you have adopted one of my conclusions ;-)
...The market is broad, and in the end everyone gets what they deserve.
Best regards
@PeterLustig49
To get back to the topic:
We also requested a quote from a building planning office that was based on the same concept as the one you mentioned.
So this is not an isolated case.
I have already discussed this with a building expert here on the forum:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/bauland-vertraege-baurecht-tipps-amtliches/6005-Bauträger-gliedert-leistungen-aus-mit-festpreis-subbi-s-ich-bin-vertragspartner.html
I cannot contribute any experience with this, as the company was excluded from the start.
To get back to the topic:
We also requested a quote from a building planning office that was based on the same concept as the one you mentioned.
So this is not an isolated case.
I have already discussed this with a building expert here on the forum:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/bauland-vertraege-baurecht-tipps-amtliches/6005-Bauträger-gliedert-leistungen-aus-mit-festpreis-subbi-s-ich-bin-vertragspartner.html
I cannot contribute any experience with this, as the company was excluded from the start.