Hello everyone
We are planning the dining/cooking/living area, so I’m not sure if this is the right forum?
We have a 3.5-room apartment on the ground floor. We enjoy cooking, also for family and friends.
We have a space of 7.25 m x 7.10 m (24 ft x 23 ft 4 in) available.
Our requirements:
- A bar in the kitchen for 2 or more people
- Enough space to cook together with family and friends
- A dining table for 8 people
Attached you will find the floor plan. What would be your suggestions for the layout of the dining/cooking/living area?
I have attached the floor plan as a JPEG and a PDF; both are the same.
We already had 1-2 ideas, but they all had their weaknesses. Therefore, as a starting point, I removed all furniture from the floor plan to avoid any bias.
Additionally, due to the large open space, a support column will be needed. This can be placed relatively flexibly somewhere central, so I would like to first plan the dining/cooking/living area. The column can then be integrated where it makes the most sense (e.g., near a bar or kitchen corner).
What other information would be helpful?
Thanks in advance and best regards
We are planning the dining/cooking/living area, so I’m not sure if this is the right forum?
We have a 3.5-room apartment on the ground floor. We enjoy cooking, also for family and friends.
We have a space of 7.25 m x 7.10 m (24 ft x 23 ft 4 in) available.
Our requirements:
- A bar in the kitchen for 2 or more people
- Enough space to cook together with family and friends
- A dining table for 8 people
Attached you will find the floor plan. What would be your suggestions for the layout of the dining/cooking/living area?
I have attached the floor plan as a JPEG and a PDF; both are the same.
We already had 1-2 ideas, but they all had their weaknesses. Therefore, as a starting point, I removed all furniture from the floor plan to avoid any bias.
Additionally, due to the large open space, a support column will be needed. This can be placed relatively flexibly somewhere central, so I would like to first plan the dining/cooking/living area. The column can then be integrated where it makes the most sense (e.g., near a bar or kitchen corner).
What other information would be helpful?
Thanks in advance and best regards
H
hanghaus20231 Apr 2025 16:15Do you mean something like this?

The dashed line indicates a beam that allows you to omit the support column. Upstairs, everything would be drywall construction. The ceiling area in the kitchen might be lowered to accommodate ventilation ducts.
The door to the sleeping area could also be left out, or replaced with a sliding door that can be closed when needed.
Will this be a solid (masonry) house?
The dashed line indicates a beam that allows you to omit the support column. Upstairs, everything would be drywall construction. The ceiling area in the kitchen might be lowered to accommodate ventilation ducts.
The door to the sleeping area could also be left out, or replaced with a sliding door that can be closed when needed.
Will this be a solid (masonry) house?
faselph schrieb:
As mentioned, we cannot change the access due to local regulations. Inside, however, we have freedom. The second sentence sounds like Klingon spoken backwards to me. Sometimes the Babylonian language confusion CH-DE probably manages to outdo even AT-DE.
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