ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
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pffreestyler29 Nov 2018 16:46Maria16 schrieb:
Now I get the thing with the roller shutter box – it’s not installed yet. So the top edge of the current opening will be lowered, right?
Your estimated 40 sqm (430 sq ft) spread across 4 rooms means about 10 sqm (107 sq ft) per room on average. And then, of course, you have to consider how these square meters need to be accessed – given that the children’s rooms should face south and the bathroom north, and everything needs to be arranged around the centrally planned staircase, it’s unfortunately just difficult. Because 10 sqm (107 sq ft) could also mean a room that’s only 1.5 m (5 ft) wide but 6.6 m (22 ft) long – which is just terrible to furnish. Especially if there’s light from only one side and some wall positions are fixed due to the windows.
About the bathtub: if the structural support doesn’t allow it, could it go in the ground floor bathroom?
About the structure in general: the expandability of the attic is secured, right?
Regarding the room layout: could a storage room possibly be designed as an internal room without windows?
I’m thinking of something like this (not to scale!):
BUT: whether there is space for this dimension-wise, and especially if it can be drained properly, is questionableExactly, the top edge of the opening will still move down.
The 40 sqm (430 sq ft) is estimated excluding the walls. The stairwell is just under 4 sqm (43 sq ft) and the corridor proposed here is maybe 6 sqm (65 sq ft). That leaves about 10 sqm (107 sq ft) for the drywall partitions, which honestly I can’t estimate how much space they take up. The bathtub can’t go downstairs anymore, but it doesn’t have to be there at all costs. It would be nice, though.
The structure for the attic expansion is in place.
If necessary, a separate storage room would certainly be possible. But that would be unfortunate. With your proposed floor plan, I would only swap the bathroom and storage room so that both bathrooms are stacked one above the other.
Let’s see what Saturday brings.
hanse987 schrieb:
What kind of heating system is being installed, and is it designed to handle the upper floor once it’s built out? As long as the upper floor isn’t finished, it’s oversized.
How exactly is the insulation planned now after the building permit? Will the roof be insulated right away, or just the ceiling between the ground and upper floors? It is sufficiently sized for the entire house and at 14 kW (Buderus GB 172/14) actually oversized just for the ground floor. But I talked with a friend back then who said it’s not a problem – it can initially be set so that it doesn’t constantly switch on and off.Only the ceiling between floors is insulated.
pffreestyler schrieb:
The opening is so close under the beams because of the roller shutter box. I had actually understood an estimated 5 to 8 cm (2 to 3 inches). Well, then it’s at most tight at the maintenance hatch, but no problem for the window.
Maria16 schrieb:
Regarding the room layout: could a storage room possibly be designed as an enclosed space? Yes, that’s not an issue. In the past, people used to have storage space behind knee walls in the sloped areas. Nowadays, especially with energy saving regulations, this is usually avoided to prevent complicated insulation work.
pffreestyler schrieb:
Let’s see what Saturday brings. Fingers crossed for six correct numbers, I hope.
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pffreestyler29 Nov 2018 17:56@Maria yep, that goes without saying
@11ant the revision is from below
Yes, one possible solution would be a size 6 ...
@11ant the revision is from below
Yes, one possible solution would be a size 6 ...
What kind of staircase will this be? Has it already been ordered? Otherwise, you could rotate the staircase 180 degrees so that it has a quarter turn at the bottom (then located in front of the living room).
This would have the advantage that upstairs you would exit near the bathroom to the north, with a children's room accessible in that northern area (there are people who don’t like much sun exposure), and then behind the bathroom, towards the south, the other room—or possibly two. I don’t have a sketch right now, as I wanted to quickly share this idea about the staircase here.
This would have the advantage that upstairs you would exit near the bathroom to the north, with a children's room accessible in that northern area (there are people who don’t like much sun exposure), and then behind the bathroom, towards the south, the other room—or possibly two. I don’t have a sketch right now, as I wanted to quickly share this idea about the staircase here.
Here is a rough sketch: the house measures 12 x 10.50 meters (39.4 x 34.4 feet)... the north-facing windows, if I look into my crystal ball, would be the same as those on the south side.
The staircase is centrally located, and I find that it somehow works out, even without the staircase rotation I had imagined.
The knee wall is provided up to 1 meter (3.3 feet) for storage areas, and so on...
The parents’ bedroom can be on the north side, and the children’s rooms with cozy bedrooms can be on the south side.
The staircase is centrally located, and I find that it somehow works out, even without the staircase rotation I had imagined.
The knee wall is provided up to 1 meter (3.3 feet) for storage areas, and so on...
The parents’ bedroom can be on the north side, and the children’s rooms with cozy bedrooms can be on the south side.
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