ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
pffreestyler schrieb:
So it will remain three rooms (2 children's rooms and 1 bathroom with a bathtub)Please keep in mind the load-bearing capacity for a filled bathtub.
pffreestyler schrieb:
The windows are currently estimated to be 5-8 cm (2-3 inches) below the beams. But that is due to the 24 cm (9.5 inches) roller shutter box on each windowThen appearances are deceiving – that’s good for you.
pffreestyler schrieb:
and I was still able to sleep underneath without any problems when I was younger.But not sit and, for example, read. It is what it is.
kaho674 schrieb:
Where exactly is the opening? Can it still be moved or shifted?What do you want to move there? The house is practically finished… Moving the stair opening means moving the stairs. To where?
ypg schrieb:
What exactly do you want to move? The house is practically finished... Moving the stair opening means relocating the stairs. To where? I’m not sure how the ceiling is constructed. I see a lot of wood there. The stairs could possibly be made steeper and the opening smaller. It is specified as 15 x 26 cm (6 x 10 inches) = 3.90 m (12.8 ft). But that doesn’t seem to match the measurements on the plan.
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pffreestyler29 Nov 2018 12:53The stairwell can no longer be moved. I will take exact measurements again this evening.
The carpenter has marked the start of the stairs on the ground floor. I will also check this again tonight. The staircase has not been ordered yet; only quotes have been requested.
The height to be overcome is 2.77 m (9 ft 1 in) minus 0.22 m (9 inches) for the floor structure. I still need to measure the beam thickness plus 0.10 m (4 inches) for the upper floor structure.
I will also provide the window positions this evening.
I have not checked the roof pitch. The carpenter surely hasn’t deducted 5 degrees.
The conduits have been ordered but not yet installed, as the work is not advanced enough.
Thanks for the tip regarding the bathtub. We hadn’t thought of that.
We really only sit on the edge of the bed, but I could read there for hours.
PS: In kaho’s floor plan, north and south need to be swapped. The stair opening faces south, but because of the plumbing, the bathroom has to be in the left northern room.
The carpenter has marked the start of the stairs on the ground floor. I will also check this again tonight. The staircase has not been ordered yet; only quotes have been requested.
The height to be overcome is 2.77 m (9 ft 1 in) minus 0.22 m (9 inches) for the floor structure. I still need to measure the beam thickness plus 0.10 m (4 inches) for the upper floor structure.
I will also provide the window positions this evening.
I have not checked the roof pitch. The carpenter surely hasn’t deducted 5 degrees.
The conduits have been ordered but not yet installed, as the work is not advanced enough.
Thanks for the tip regarding the bathtub. We hadn’t thought of that.
We really only sit on the edge of the bed, but I could read there for hours.
PS: In kaho’s floor plan, north and south need to be swapped. The stair opening faces south, but because of the plumbing, the bathroom has to be in the left northern room.
Freestyler; obviously still quite young? Okay.
1) Finish building it and enjoy.
2) Don’t drift apart; paying off the mortgage and marriage are long-term efforts.
3) Don’t make the stairs too steep. You will get older.
4) If the 160cm (63 inch) bed becomes too narrow or you get too wide, the upstairs area can be expanded.
This house is suitable for a maximum of 4 people. Keep that in mind when planning your family.
All the best, Karsten
PS Where is it located? Ours is in OH-North. Yours?
1) Finish building it and enjoy.
2) Don’t drift apart; paying off the mortgage and marriage are long-term efforts.
3) Don’t make the stairs too steep. You will get older.
4) If the 160cm (63 inch) bed becomes too narrow or you get too wide, the upstairs area can be expanded.
This house is suitable for a maximum of 4 people. Keep that in mind when planning your family.
All the best, Karsten
PS Where is it located? Ours is in OH-North. Yours?
pffreestyler schrieb:
The stairwell can no longer be moved. I will measure the exact position again this evening. Ok, be careful not to fall while doing that.
pffreestyler schrieb:
PS: In kaho’s floor plan, north and south would need to be swapped. The stair opening faces south, but due to the plumbing, the bathroom has to be connected to the left northern room. How do you plan to handle that?
It might be possible to add a quarter turn to the staircase on the ground floor. That would shorten it on the upper floor. Reducing the hole size should be feasible, right?
Karsten, I have to disagree: silence, no. I would have agreed if the current critics hadn’t been warned beforehand – but they were. So, I can fully share Climbee’s head-shaking.
When I now read that the bedroom downstairs isn’t going to be a bedroom at all, then everything is clear: if a child arrives, the house will be rebuilt.
In the attic, living spaces won’t work. Guest and ironing rooms, yes. But nothing more. If there were a bedroom downstairs, the attic would be perfect as a playroom. That means the child downstairs would need less space because nothing would have to be tidied up there.
I don’t see a proper conversion with a floor structure and ceiling paneling here; it seems the term “conversion reserve” has been misunderstood from “doing it later” to “only planning it later.”
What’s left is a bungalow with plenty of space upstairs for dancing, playing, and drying laundry.
So: install sockets upstairs for the iron and the computer, so that by the time the child starts preschool, the little office might still be enough as a child’s room; and then, as the saying goes, “after the game is before the game,” this also applies here to saving for the build.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
When I now read that the bedroom downstairs isn’t going to be a bedroom at all, then everything is clear: if a child arrives, the house will be rebuilt.
In the attic, living spaces won’t work. Guest and ironing rooms, yes. But nothing more. If there were a bedroom downstairs, the attic would be perfect as a playroom. That means the child downstairs would need less space because nothing would have to be tidied up there.
I don’t see a proper conversion with a floor structure and ceiling paneling here; it seems the term “conversion reserve” has been misunderstood from “doing it later” to “only planning it later.”
What’s left is a bungalow with plenty of space upstairs for dancing, playing, and drying laundry.
So: install sockets upstairs for the iron and the computer, so that by the time the child starts preschool, the little office might still be enough as a child’s room; and then, as the saying goes, “after the game is before the game,” this also applies here to saving for the build.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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