ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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pffreestyler
Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Things change faster than you might think... that was also the case for us, until the first groups of Romanian gangs showed up (this is not racist, it was simply the case: organized gangs responsible for break-ins, and they all came from Romania; in the far north, they might come from elsewhere).
And therefore: if it can be proven that the property was not locked, you won’t get a single cent (or dollar) from your insurance. So if the door was only pried open with a credit card and there are no other signs of forced entry, you’re out of luck.
And therefore: if it can be proven that the property was not locked, you won’t get a single cent (or dollar) from your insurance. So if the door was only pried open with a credit card and there are no other signs of forced entry, you’re out of luck.
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pffreestyler4 Apr 2018 20:10@Climbee: Regarding odors: First of all, it should be clear that I did not mean that no smells can be noticed anywhere in the house except in the closed kitchen. I am fully aware that smells always spread.
I also know three options. My parents have a closed kitchen. The future in-laws have a kitchen separated from the living room by a door. We live in a rental apartment with an open kitchen.
For us, the open kitchen is by far the worst option. Clattering is annoying while watching TV, and the smells spread throughout the entire room—I once made pea stew. The smell lingered for two days despite the extractor hood and later airing out—never again. Also, the kitchen always has to be clean...
That leaves the other two options. I like both, but the one my future in-laws have suffers from limited counter space. It works if you don’t want to eat with the children in the kitchen. But that’s exactly what we want to do. Therefore, only the option you consider the worst remains for us.
@11ant: The utility room increases the number of windows, so I definitely want two windows facing the street. However, the kitchen also needs natural light from a window if it faces east. So that’s one more window than in the original plan. Ultimately, it’s not a big issue.
Regarding the open door topic: I actually only know it that way. The doors are always open, people walk in, call out “Hello,” and continue when they get an answer. When no one is home, of course, the doors are locked...
The last version I posted, with the kitchen/utility room and bedroom/bathroom swapped, was something I could imagine, but my girlfriend is not quite comfortable with it. She wants the kitchen facing the street so she can look outside (I don’t really need that). The utility room is also a bit too far from the later planned carport (which will only start at the height of the planned living room and then extend into the depth of the property).
Swapping the bathroom and bedroom is a bit suboptimal for the upper floor, as the bathrooms on both levels should be located in the same place.
In the end, maybe we are not modern enough, but it works for US.
What I did take away and what really helped us was to remove the kink from the hallway and straighten the kink in the bedroom. That helped us a lot.
I want to thank everyone, even though most don’t fully understand our decision and would have built it quite differently. Thanks again to all.
PS: If the costs end up being higher than expected (I hope not, but anything is possible) and we have to fundamentally change the floor plan, I will get back in touch ;D
I also know three options. My parents have a closed kitchen. The future in-laws have a kitchen separated from the living room by a door. We live in a rental apartment with an open kitchen.
For us, the open kitchen is by far the worst option. Clattering is annoying while watching TV, and the smells spread throughout the entire room—I once made pea stew. The smell lingered for two days despite the extractor hood and later airing out—never again. Also, the kitchen always has to be clean...
That leaves the other two options. I like both, but the one my future in-laws have suffers from limited counter space. It works if you don’t want to eat with the children in the kitchen. But that’s exactly what we want to do. Therefore, only the option you consider the worst remains for us.
@11ant: The utility room increases the number of windows, so I definitely want two windows facing the street. However, the kitchen also needs natural light from a window if it faces east. So that’s one more window than in the original plan. Ultimately, it’s not a big issue.
Regarding the open door topic: I actually only know it that way. The doors are always open, people walk in, call out “Hello,” and continue when they get an answer. When no one is home, of course, the doors are locked...
The last version I posted, with the kitchen/utility room and bedroom/bathroom swapped, was something I could imagine, but my girlfriend is not quite comfortable with it. She wants the kitchen facing the street so she can look outside (I don’t really need that). The utility room is also a bit too far from the later planned carport (which will only start at the height of the planned living room and then extend into the depth of the property).
Swapping the bathroom and bedroom is a bit suboptimal for the upper floor, as the bathrooms on both levels should be located in the same place.
In the end, maybe we are not modern enough, but it works for US.
What I did take away and what really helped us was to remove the kink from the hallway and straighten the kink in the bedroom. That helped us a lot.
I want to thank everyone, even though most don’t fully understand our decision and would have built it quite differently. Thanks again to all.
PS: If the costs end up being higher than expected (I hope not, but anything is possible) and we have to fundamentally change the floor plan, I will get back in touch ;D
Nordlys schrieb:
...On our side of the street, which has the odd house numbers, they all have it like this: back door—utility room—kitchen or hallway if the kitchen is in the living room. On the even-numbered side, there is one without a back door.Number 1 among housebuilding mistakes:
Believing that just because everyone has it, it must be right, well planned, or something you need yourself.
A standard approach might work, but it is often not optimal.
The Heinz von Heiden standard is 6 square meters (65 square feet) for a freezer room in a 4-person household, including everything else like the washing machine and storage space, even in pitched roof houses.
Even a single neighbor curses this tightness...
As a builder, you can choose a flat-rate and standard option, but usually, for the same cost, you can have a customized solution—though that requires some thought.
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