ᐅ Ground floor approximately 100 sqm, upper floor adaptable for expansion (planned bathroom, 2 children's bedrooms, 1 storage room)
Created on: 28 Mar 2018 10:32
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Hello,
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 879 sqm (9,458 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) to the street, 3 m (10 ft) each to the orchard area and neighbors
Edge development /
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Construction style: solid / masonry
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 9.0 m (30 ft), eaves height 6.0 m (20 ft)
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements: living room facing south, small office (initially used as a nursery), walk-in shower on ground floor, utility room on the driveway side
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories
Number of residents, age: 2 – under 30
Office use: family use rather than home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern style: rather traditional
Open kitchen, kitchen island: no
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: carport planned later on the east side
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
House design
Designer: general contractor
What do you like most? Why? living room facing south, the number of rooms as desired
What do you dislike? Why? the office window 1 should be moved from south to west (otherwise the wall looks too bare); driveway and access to be on the east, not the west
Price estimate by architect/planner: available after Easter; currently mainly focused on the floor plan
Personal price limit including fixtures: expected around €1,700 per sqm (sq ft conversion not added per instruction)
Preferred heating: gas
If you have to give up, which details/features?
-can give up: bathtub
-cannot give up:
Why is the design as it is now?
The floor plan is based on a very similar layout seen during a house viewing and is our favorite among all viewings and catalog research. We only adapted it slightly to our needs (removed guest WC and enlarged living room, rotated office).
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The floor plan basically fits us, but I would appreciate your opinion to see if any improvements are possible. Note: as mentioned, we want to move the office window to the west so the wall doesn’t look so bare. Driveway on the east, not west. Therefore, the bare wall on the west is where the carport will go up to the utility room door. Alternatively, a window could be added to the living room there and the carport start behind the house. The plot allows this.
My main concern is that we’re not 100% happy with the roof’s east-west orientation; I would prefer a north-south alignment. Do you have ideas on rotating the floor plan 90 degrees while keeping the layout mostly unchanged? Only the kitchen and office could be swapped.
PS: The square meter figures for the hallway may be incorrect; the contractor will finalize after Easter. Correct figures will be approximately: living room 31.79 sqm (342 sq ft), kitchen 15.19 sqm (163 sq ft), utility room 9.87 sqm (106 sq ft), hallway about 19.5 sqm (210 sq ft), office/child room 1 about 8 sqm (86 sq ft), bedroom about 11.8 sqm (127 sq ft), bathroom about 8.5 sqm (91 sq ft)
Plot details: length west: 40 m (131 ft), east: 42 m (138 ft), width: 21.5 m (71 ft)
Best regards
The house is not small. IF the attic is ever finished.
At least seriously consider swapping the utility room and the kitchen, moving the kitchen door to the hallway (possibly shifting the stairs toward the left side of the plan) to allow more light into the kitchen and shorten the walking distances.
You should also plan the kitchen itself. In the current room, an L-shaped kitchen along the full length isn’t possible because of the utility room door. Just under 4 m (13 feet) of kitchen counter space would be far too little if you only have a single row against one wall, as shown. If you don’t swap the rooms, at least move the utility room door so that you can pull the kitchen counter in an L-shape.
Bathroom: The bathtub and shower should be in one line. If the toilet is located opposite the sink, the bathroom might even be a bit narrower (or have the shower door open inward so it doesn’t hit the toilet) and the gained space added to the children’s room. Definitely reconsider the corner in the bedroom – anyone passing through will find it very tight.
Otherwise, please really and honestly question whether the attic conversion is financially and timely feasible.
Personal opinion: After our build, I’m done with that for now. I wouldn’t want my partner to come to me saying we have a child now and he spends his free time in the attic instead of with me and then eventually with the child.
At least seriously consider swapping the utility room and the kitchen, moving the kitchen door to the hallway (possibly shifting the stairs toward the left side of the plan) to allow more light into the kitchen and shorten the walking distances.
You should also plan the kitchen itself. In the current room, an L-shaped kitchen along the full length isn’t possible because of the utility room door. Just under 4 m (13 feet) of kitchen counter space would be far too little if you only have a single row against one wall, as shown. If you don’t swap the rooms, at least move the utility room door so that you can pull the kitchen counter in an L-shape.
Bathroom: The bathtub and shower should be in one line. If the toilet is located opposite the sink, the bathroom might even be a bit narrower (or have the shower door open inward so it doesn’t hit the toilet) and the gained space added to the children’s room. Definitely reconsider the corner in the bedroom – anyone passing through will find it very tight.
Otherwise, please really and honestly question whether the attic conversion is financially and timely feasible.
Personal opinion: After our build, I’m done with that for now. I wouldn’t want my partner to come to me saying we have a child now and he spends his free time in the attic instead of with me and then eventually with the child.
Nordlys from TE does not want to swap the building services and kitchen because of odors, despite having a door and wall. In that case, an Ikea hood won’t help.
If the attic is finished, the house is not exactly small. So why force so many rooms into the floor area? Whether in Schleswig-Holstein or not, flexible rubber walls are not an option for you either.
If the attic is finished, the house is not exactly small. So why force so many rooms into the floor area? Whether in Schleswig-Holstein or not, flexible rubber walls are not an option for you either.
haydee schrieb:
Nordlys, the original poster, does not want to replace the HVAC system and kitchen because of odors, even with a door and wall. In that case, an Ikea hood won’t help.Wasn’t this in combination with a pass-through to the living room? Honestly, if you build a wall, access the kitchen through the hallway, and the argument about odors still comes up, then there’s no point in saying anything more here.
No, why get offended so quickly? People are just discussing and sharing their opinions; what the original poster does with it is up to them. After all, they are the ones paying for it and intending to use it. Sometimes there is also a feeling of resistance without really knowing why... sometimes you just need to let it sink in.
I’m not upset. But when weak arguments like smell are used against moving the kitchen (and yes, even you would have supported a swap ), at some point there’s no point in continuing the discussion. Then the floor plan is set for the original poster, and they won’t be open to any arguments anymore.
In that case, I’d rather spend my time on other things than argue against a wall.
Edit: I needed to use more conditional here—I still think the original poster assumed the kitchen would be accessed through the living room, which should definitely be avoidable.
In that case, I’d rather spend my time on other things than argue against a wall.
Edit: I needed to use more conditional here—I still think the original poster assumed the kitchen would be accessed through the living room, which should definitely be avoidable.
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