ᐅ Ground floor and basement with bedrooms and bathroom in the basement – what do you think of this layout?
Created on: 27 Jan 2020 22:02
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Sternchen31
Hello everyone,
We have our first appointment with the architect on Wednesday evening. In the meantime, we have started experimenting with our ideas using Sweet Home 3D and want to bring these to the meeting on Wednesday. What do you think about the room layout and design? The living area is planned to be around 140-150 sqm (1507-1615 sq ft). The listed square meters on the floor plans include both exterior and interior walls according to the program. If I have calculated correctly and subtract the exterior walls and about 15% of the foundation size for the interior walls, you end up with roughly 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) of net living space. The foundation here measures 11 x 13 meters (36 x 43 feet). For now, we are mainly focused on the room arrangement and design. We are building on a slope, which means we will drive straight into the garage, and the property slopes downward along with the house.
Between the vestibule and the pantry, as well as between the vestibule and the hallway, we are considering using internal sliding doors.
We also wanted to ask who has placed their main bathroom with toilet, shower, and bathtub in the basement? Because of the sloped site, wastewater from the toilet, shower, and bathtub would have to be pumped back up to street level. There would be a height difference of about 2.5 meters (8 feet) to overcome. We are wondering if this is possible with a pumping system and, importantly, what the costs might be.
Background: We are building on a slope so that half of the basement can be fully used as living space because it is partially above ground. Since we always wanted a bungalow but need a basement, the option of a ground floor with a livable basement area is the best solution for us. We could also build two full floors on the property, but with a basement (half of which is above ground at the rear), it would look too bulky. The house is intended for two adults and one child, and we are planning to install a photovoltaic system, an air-to-water heat pump, and underfloor heating. The house will be built to KfW 55 standards. The slope means there is a height difference of 3.4 meters (11 feet) over a property length of 32 meters (105 feet).
We are very early in the planning process and are using the software for the first time, so please don’t be too harsh if something seems completely unreasonable or confusing.
Thank you in advance for your ideas and suggestions!!!
We have our first appointment with the architect on Wednesday evening. In the meantime, we have started experimenting with our ideas using Sweet Home 3D and want to bring these to the meeting on Wednesday. What do you think about the room layout and design? The living area is planned to be around 140-150 sqm (1507-1615 sq ft). The listed square meters on the floor plans include both exterior and interior walls according to the program. If I have calculated correctly and subtract the exterior walls and about 15% of the foundation size for the interior walls, you end up with roughly 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) of net living space. The foundation here measures 11 x 13 meters (36 x 43 feet). For now, we are mainly focused on the room arrangement and design. We are building on a slope, which means we will drive straight into the garage, and the property slopes downward along with the house.
Between the vestibule and the pantry, as well as between the vestibule and the hallway, we are considering using internal sliding doors.
We also wanted to ask who has placed their main bathroom with toilet, shower, and bathtub in the basement? Because of the sloped site, wastewater from the toilet, shower, and bathtub would have to be pumped back up to street level. There would be a height difference of about 2.5 meters (8 feet) to overcome. We are wondering if this is possible with a pumping system and, importantly, what the costs might be.
Background: We are building on a slope so that half of the basement can be fully used as living space because it is partially above ground. Since we always wanted a bungalow but need a basement, the option of a ground floor with a livable basement area is the best solution for us. We could also build two full floors on the property, but with a basement (half of which is above ground at the rear), it would look too bulky. The house is intended for two adults and one child, and we are planning to install a photovoltaic system, an air-to-water heat pump, and underfloor heating. The house will be built to KfW 55 standards. The slope means there is a height difference of 3.4 meters (11 feet) over a property length of 32 meters (105 feet).
We are very early in the planning process and are using the software for the first time, so please don’t be too harsh if something seems completely unreasonable or confusing.
Thank you in advance for your ideas and suggestions!!!
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Sternchen3128 Jan 2020 01:53ltenzer schrieb:
Okay, the layout of the rooms makes more sense this way. I still find the proportions too tight in the kitchen and pantry, while the son can build a roller coaster in the living area. Also think about yourself and the walk from the couch to the fridge . The kitchen and pantry might work for a small apartment in downtown Munich, but not for a nearly 90 sqm (970 sq ft) open-plan apartment. It feels like a dollhouse kitchen.Yes, that’s actually true. The distance between the living room and kitchen is inconvenient, and the hallway is too large. The architect should take that into consideration The plan is just a support to our wishes. Whether the kitchen is 5 sqm (54 sq ft) bigger or a bit differently laid out, and the living-dining area is adjusted accordingly, it doesn’t matter. THANK YOU!
Do you want 140 sqm (1506 sq ft) total or 140 sqm (1506 sq ft) plus a basement?
Okay, if the garden and play area are in front of the house, that works. Usually, they are behind the house. That wasn’t clear from your information.
Could you add some measurements to the floor plan?
Okay, if the garden and play area are in front of the house, that works. Usually, they are behind the house. That wasn’t clear from your information.
Could you add some measurements to the floor plan?
Sternchen31 schrieb:
The current architect is part of the construction company we chose. The builder is very well known in our area and everyone we talked to gave exclusively positive feedback. So we thought it might help if we could show what we have in mind not just with words but also with pictures. No. Big mistake! The planners from the builders are not the best. If you give them something, they just copy it 1:1, including all planning errors.
They need to be challenged. Write down what you need and then wait. Then we can discuss it here.
Sternchen31 schrieb:
Because of the sloping plot, we were advised.... Sternchen31 schrieb:
We were therefore advised about the bedrooms... Who gave you this advice?
And what do you want?
Sternchen31 schrieb:
Space requirements on the ground floor and upper floor – total living area 130–140 sqm (1400–1500 sq ft) However, your floor plans show well over 200 sqm (2150 sq ft) of living space. There are already 140 sqm (1500 sq ft) on the ground floor alone, plus 115 sqm (1240 sq ft) of living/usable space in the basement. Building such a large house is hardly possible within that budget. Are you aware that your figures contradict the floor plans?
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Pinkiponk28 Jan 2020 09:17Would you like to include a window in the (separate) shower room? I find windows especially pleasant in small rooms where a lot of water vapor is produced. Unless, of course, it is a sauna.
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