Hello,
we want to build a KfW 40 plus house with a prefab home provider that has not yet been decided. Some elements, such as the photovoltaic system including storage, the prefabricated basement, the garage, the staircase, and possibly a few other items will be outsourced because it simply makes more sense.
Now to the actual process (after purchasing the plot).
1. Should we look for an architect/energy consultant ourselves, or does the architect from the prefab home company take over this role even if the basement, photovoltaic system, etc. are ordered externally?
2. Should we find an expert to simply support us during the construction? For this, should we rather choose someone from a home builders’ association or someone like a "prefab home expert"?
3. Obtain quotes from the prefab home companies, the basement builders, the photovoltaic installer, etc. For this purpose, I have already created a checklist to ensure that not too many additional costs appear during selection but that everything is included in the initial offer (otherwise it would be hard to compare). Of course, we will carry out a preliminary selection to be absolutely sure. What is a sensible order here? For example: prefab home provider first, then basement builder, then photovoltaic company, then exterior work, then staircase builder?
4. Decision on the prefab home company and revision or extension of the contracts such as the scope of work through additional clauses and everything that is not fairly balanced.
5. Then price negotiation. Should professional help be sought here as well and, if so, who? Would that person also be involved during the process?
6. Signature and starting signal for construction. The architect should have the floor plans, etc. ready before that for the building permit / planning permission application.
It would be great to get lots of input here so we are better prepared! Many thanks in advance!
we want to build a KfW 40 plus house with a prefab home provider that has not yet been decided. Some elements, such as the photovoltaic system including storage, the prefabricated basement, the garage, the staircase, and possibly a few other items will be outsourced because it simply makes more sense.
Now to the actual process (after purchasing the plot).
1. Should we look for an architect/energy consultant ourselves, or does the architect from the prefab home company take over this role even if the basement, photovoltaic system, etc. are ordered externally?
2. Should we find an expert to simply support us during the construction? For this, should we rather choose someone from a home builders’ association or someone like a "prefab home expert"?
3. Obtain quotes from the prefab home companies, the basement builders, the photovoltaic installer, etc. For this purpose, I have already created a checklist to ensure that not too many additional costs appear during selection but that everything is included in the initial offer (otherwise it would be hard to compare). Of course, we will carry out a preliminary selection to be absolutely sure. What is a sensible order here? For example: prefab home provider first, then basement builder, then photovoltaic company, then exterior work, then staircase builder?
4. Decision on the prefab home company and revision or extension of the contracts such as the scope of work through additional clauses and everything that is not fairly balanced.
5. Then price negotiation. Should professional help be sought here as well and, if so, who? Would that person also be involved during the process?
6. Signature and starting signal for construction. The architect should have the floor plans, etc. ready before that for the building permit / planning permission application.
It would be great to get lots of input here so we are better prepared! Many thanks in advance!
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Matthew033 Jun 2020 13:39You somehow don’t realize that your rigid focus on “prefabricated houses” alone is blocking your otherwise “normal” wishes for separation of work and DIY contribution.
And with this fixation, I really wonder what you have been listening to for 8 hours a day!?!
Break free from prefabricated houses and then it will make sense. But others here have already told you that several times and it only supports the point of my last post.
And with this fixation, I really wonder what you have been listening to for 8 hours a day!?!
Break free from prefabricated houses and then it will make sense. But others here have already told you that several times and it only supports the point of my last post.
Eigenheim_2011 schrieb:
As I said, I would like well-founded facts.You haven’t spoken to any provider yet, but you want “well-founded facts” from us? Do you see us as your personal assistants or something? You receive input here, which you can accept or, assuming your incredible market power, reject.Here’s a well-founded fact: the lot opposite is being divided, and the two owners are in planning talks with Hanse and Schwörerhaus. With Schwörerhaus, if the contract is signed by the end of June, the house could probably still be produced in 2022. Then the building permit/planning permission must still be approved over the summer. For the Hanse couple, the estimated delivery date is about 24 months after the building permit/planning permission is granted. That says a lot about current capacity. Even “smaller” companies have full order books.
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nordanney3 Jun 2020 13:53Eigenheim_2011 schrieb:
Are you asking if the FHA tells you how full their books are? Yes, at least indirectly, by giving you a scheduling date at the end of 2021. They don’t do this to annoy you, but because they are still working through orders from last year (or even late 2018).
Eigenheim_2011 schrieb:
I basically just want to save costs and possibly take alternative routes or arrange the offer in advance (for example, through pre-selection) so that I don’t end up with an extra 100,000€ (approximately $110,000) added during the selection process. That is exactly what’s so unusual—and why it’s so difficult. Trying alternative routes, only saving costs, pre-selection. Just think about that for a moment—you have very unusual special requests.
Try that, for example, when buying a car. “Dear VW salesman, I want to save costs, so I’d like to work as a temporary assistant in production.” Better call an ambulance now—because the salesman won’t be able to breathe from laughing so hard…
MayrCh schrieb:
With Schwörerhaus, if the contract is signed by the end of June, the house is probably still going to be produced in 2022. However, the building permit / planning permission must be approved by summer. For the Hanse couple, the expected delivery date is about 24 months after receiving the building permit / planning permission. That says a lot about current capacity. Even "smaller" companies have fully booked schedules.Is it really that intense already????E
Eigenheim_20113 Jun 2020 14:02@Matthew03 thanks, I will keep that in mind
@MayrCh I am in a forum where many different opinions can be found, so I am asking for facts, nothing more.
@nordanney I understand. When buying a car, I already know what I am looking for. I don’t buy a standard car and then get surprised that the 360° camera suddenly costs an extra $5,000. I never said I want to install the screed myself, but I expect a cost estimate in the offer that is at least 90% final, with no or minimal unexpected expenses, achieved through savings, some DIY work, and self-contracting certain services. Please don’t get carried away with unnecessary condescending remarks, I don’t do that either. We’re not in kindergarten here.
@MayrCh I am in a forum where many different opinions can be found, so I am asking for facts, nothing more.
@nordanney I understand. When buying a car, I already know what I am looking for. I don’t buy a standard car and then get surprised that the 360° camera suddenly costs an extra $5,000. I never said I want to install the screed myself, but I expect a cost estimate in the offer that is at least 90% final, with no or minimal unexpected expenses, achieved through savings, some DIY work, and self-contracting certain services. Please don’t get carried away with unnecessary condescending remarks, I don’t do that either. We’re not in kindergarten here.
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T_im_Norden3 Jun 2020 14:16Just contact a company with your ideas, and then come back here.
At the moment, it doesn’t make sense to continue responding because you are not accepting anything that doesn’t fit your expectations.
At the moment, it doesn’t make sense to continue responding because you are not accepting anything that doesn’t fit your expectations.
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