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I use Bose QC35 headphones in the garden via Bluetooth and my phone with Spotify ;-)

ypg schrieb:

@kati1337 Be honest: it seems like you’ve never spent an evening together. Why not? In the first few years here, invitations went back and forth. Or the men would just grab a beer spontaneously!
Setting aside the noises, the loud sounds, and the barely audible whispers.
What’s going on with you guys?
If you don’t do something quickly to improve “good neighbor relations,” things will just get worse. Then you’ll just shut down at the end of the season and move out next year. Sometimes you just have to pull yourself together. A detached house and a new development is a community of many individuals. You don’t have to be friends, but getting to know each other and sharing quirks helps a lot.
I suspect this was already missed during the construction phase? I also think you might be a bit more reserved than your neighbors?

Actually, you’re mostly wrong about the relationship.
We’ve even entrusted them with a key, we meet privately behind the house sometimes—twice next month, even. We help each other whenever we can.
We basically have a good neighborly relationship. That’s exactly why I don’t want to come across as too aggressive.
When it comes to the music, we apparently have very different ideas about what counts as annoyingly loud. It’s not about the volume itself but the constant bass line. Anyone who’s ever had a neighbor’s TV playing through thin walls in an apartment knows what I mean.
Legally, I am on the right here, but the neighbor doesn’t understand it “amicably.” And that’s my problem. He’s currently involved in second-instance court proceedings with others because he doesn’t get that he’s wrong.

kati1337 schrieb:

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We basically have a good neighborly relationship.
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kati1337 schrieb:

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And legally, I am in the right, but the neighbor doesn’t understand this "amicably." That’s my problem. He is already involved in appeals with other people because he doesn’t accept that he is wrong.

Isn’t that contradictory?

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Schimi1791 schrieb:

Isn't that contradictory?

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Not that I know of.
I can basically get along well with someone, yet still disagree with some of the things they do.

kati1337 schrieb:

You are actually largely misjudging the situation.

That’s great then. I’m always glad when it’s NOT like that. I also want to challenge what is left unmentioned. After all, we also had the coronavirus pandemic, when maintaining social contacts wasn’t so easy.

kati1337 schrieb:

And in this matter, the law is on my side, but the neighbor doesn’t understand it “in a friendly way.” And that is my problem. He is already involved in second-instance court hearings with other people because he doesn’t realize he is wrong.

You might be mistaken about that — being in the right. Even in spa towns, everyday noises must be tolerated.

Your mentioned hypersensitivity and the concession to it ultimately mean that he is not doing anything seriously inappropriate when he listens to music at normal room volume that anyone would perceive as ordinary everyday noise.

ypg schrieb:

You might be wrong about that – being right. Even in spa towns, everyday noises must be tolerated.

I do tolerate everyday noises. But I don’t tolerate a bass-heavy outdoor speaker playing horrible music on a Sunday.
There have already been several comparable cases handled in court where judges shared the same opinion. I even read about a ruling where it wasn’t about the noise level itself because the judge considered the use of a speaker on the terrace in a residential area as not part of normal property use.
That also matches the fact that, apart from the one party, nobody else in the entire neighborhood does this.

bortel schrieb:

I use Bose QC35 in the garden via Bluetooth and phone with Spotify ;-)

I have the little brother with a cable. 🙂 Maybe I’ll upgrade to the QC35 someday.