ᐅ Garage too High – What Are the Possible Solutions?

Created on: 30 Nov 2019 17:26
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Mudo1991
Hello everyone,

We are about to purchase a plot of land that slopes down from the street. For this reason, we want to first consider what is technically possible before buying it. The biggest challenge seems to be the height of the garage built on the property line if we want to build at street level. Here is a picture of the situation:

Hand-drawn sketch of a plot: garage, street, and unpaved terrain with measurements.


Unfortunately, with a base that raises the ground and a garage height of, let's say, 3 meters (10 feet), the permitted height of 3.20 meters (10.5 feet) required in Rhineland-Palatinate would be exceeded. What possible solutions do you see?

Thank you in advance.
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Mudo1991
3 Feb 2020 15:55
Bookstar schrieb:

Building permit application with form and neighbor’s signature. Costs 100 euros.

We will most likely not get the neighbor’s signature, so we have to comply with the state building regulations of Rhineland-Palatinate (RLP). I looked them up and I think that a roof with a pitch of up to 45 degrees up to the desired height could be the solution (because this, see below, is not included in the measurement) if I understand it correctly.


German text section about setback height of wall and roof surfaces (sections 1–2).
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hampshire
3 Feb 2020 16:18
Mudo1991 schrieb:

We will most likely not get the neighbor’s signature...
It sounds like no specific discussion has taken place yet. I would try to initiate one. Since he hasn’t agreed yet, you have everything to gain and nothing to lose.
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Mudo1991
3 Feb 2020 16:25
hampshire schrieb:

Sounds like there hasn’t been a concrete discussion about this yet. I would try to start one. Since he hasn’t agreed yet, you can only gain and have nothing to lose.

Actually, the neighbor can’t or won’t make a decision because he still doesn’t know if or how he will build on the neighboring property or if he will sell it. We could wait longer, or look for a legally compliant way to build the garage now.
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Nordlys
3 Feb 2020 16:47
I'll be honest: This whole situation is unreasonable, and as a neighbor, I would oppose it, even if it meant going to court. Somebody is putting a 4.20-meter (13 feet 9 inches) wall right in front of me, and then, just three meters (10 feet) further away, there’s a house at the same height—light, air, and sunlight, all gone. Alternatively, I could go along with this and sink tens of thousands into fill and reinforced concrete retaining walls... instead of leveling the plot properly, with the front lowered and the back raised, which everyone else does here, as required by the zoning plan / building permit. And that works perfectly fine. Karsten
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Bookstar
3 Feb 2020 17:10
Nordlys schrieb:

To be honest: this whole situation is unreasonable, and as a neighbor, I would take action against it, even if it meant going to court. Someone is putting up a 4.20-meter (14-foot) wall right in front of me, and just three meters (10 feet) further, there’s a house built at the same height. Light, air, and sunlight—everything is gone. The alternative would be to go along with this and spend tens of thousands on fill and reinforced concrete retaining walls... instead of properly leveling the plot, lowering it in the front and raising it in the back, which everyone else does here. The development plan requires it, and it works perfectly. Karsten
How do you know his plot?
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Mudo1991
3 Feb 2020 17:33
Nordlys schrieb:

To be honest: This whole situation is unacceptable, and as a neighbor, I would take action against it, if necessary through legal means. Someone is putting up a 4.20-meter (14 feet) wall right in front of me, and then three meters (10 feet) further, there’s a house built at full height—light, air, sun, everything gone. Or I can go along with this nonsense and spend tens of thousands on fill and reinforced concrete retaining walls... instead of leveling the plot by cutting the front and raising the back, as everyone does here. The zoning plan requires it, and it works perfectly. Karsten

Exactly, since our neighbor is not giving permission, we want to build according to valid laws, of course. That was my only question: For a garage roof pitch of 45 degrees or less sloping toward the property line, is this roof counted toward the average wall height? Many thanks in advance.