ᐅ Garage on a corner plot: Is turning around possible?

Created on: 6 Jul 2023 12:20
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Hausbauer23
We have purchased a plot of land that is adjacent to another house at the back and is accessed via a shared narrow driveway. Due to the zoning plan and setback requirements, the garage must be located at the rear rather than facing the street (additionally, the front is on the sunny side, so it wouldn’t make sense to place it there). The neighboring house has a gate for vehicle access, so we cannot turn around on their property (marked as "neighbor" in the sketch). The driveway itself is 3.20m (10.5 feet) wide, and the arrow in the sketch indicates the direction of the street.

We would like to install a gate as well (either a telescopic sliding gate or a folding gate) about 4.5m (15 feet) wide, plus a separate pedestrian door for people to pass through (shown in red in the sketch). Do you think this makes sense? Our main concern is whether it will still be possible to drive out forwards afterwards.

Do you have any other suggestions, particularly regarding the placement of the waste containers and bicycle storage?
Grundriss eines Gebäudeteils: Garage mit zwei Autos, angrenzende Räume und Türen.
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motorradsilke
6 Jul 2023 14:42
Hausbauer23 schrieb:

We could theoretically widen the driveway in the top left corner by paving on our property there (so shift the area marked "bicycles" to the right). The question is how much space is actually needed. Testing this on-site is currently impossible because there is still an excavation pit from the demolished old building in that spot. Is there some kind of online simulator for this?

I meant it seriously at first. On Sunday, go to a supermarket parking lot and set up the situation with cardboard boxes.
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WilderSueden
6 Jul 2023 15:08
Hausbauer23 schrieb:

The plot "a" is divided by condominium ownership (strata title), while "b" and "c" are divided as individual parcels. According to the municipality’s parking regulation, two parking spaces are mandatory. Additionally, garages or carports are explicitly not allowed to be placed within an 8m (26 feet) strip in the front yard facing the street, because this area is intended for green landscaping. Building lines must also be observed. If we place the garage toward the street side, we would need to orient our terrace to the northeast (where the garage is currently planned) 😕
But 8m (26 feet) is not much. A 5m (16 feet) clearance in front of garages is almost standard everywhere; that’s about the size of a typical family station wagon. If guests park in front of the garage and can walk around the car, you almost have the full 8m (26 feet). A northwest-facing terrace can also be pleasant—not too hot in summer and away from the street. Why not share your project in the floor plan section? That way, you’ll likely get help optimizing it as a whole.
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hanghaus2023
6 Jul 2023 18:08
Floor plan: left hall and right garage with two parked cars.


I would leave out the doors and add the money to the budget for the paving work.

Are there any dimensions of your own property?

I like to try this out with scale paper models of the cars on the plan.
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Hausbauer23
6 Jul 2023 18:18
The dimensions of our plot are approximately 30.0m x 15.9m (98.4 ft x 52.2 ft). We will probably try out the idea with the parking space over the weekend and see if it works out.
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hanghaus2023
6 Jul 2023 18:27
OK. Thanks.

I sketched it out. The house measures 10 × 10 m (33 × 33 ft).

Technical drawing: elongated rectangle with two overlapping blue diamonds in the center.


In my opinion, this is not a problem without gates. With gates, it is more likely to be problematic.

I assume that north is at the top here.
11ant6 Jul 2023 21:57
My suggestions would be: #1 to omit the driveway gate; #2 to install a pedestrian door to the left of the garage door and move the trash bins and bicycles out of the driveway and into the garage; #3 to park the Audi in reverse; optionally #4 to add a small gate at the transition between the driveway and the garden. This way, the entire driveway remains a clear space for maneuvering, the garden is fenced off, and only the area in front of the driveway and front door is easily accessible—how many intruders would you realistically expect to justify having a gate in front of the maneuvering area?
(In any case, I would personally feel more restricted by the planned gate than the rest of the world).
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