ᐅ Full Basement for Hobby and Office – Underfloor Heating, Electric Radiator, or Infrared Heating?

Created on: 13 Feb 2021 12:30
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SaschaL
Hello everyone,

What would you do?

I'm currently planning a house with an 88 sqm (947 sq ft) full basement, 2.60 m (8.5 ft) high in the shell stage.

4 rooms
- Hobby room (approx. 30 sqm / 323 sq ft) – will be a home cinema
- Utility room (approx. 12 sqm / 129 sq ft)
- Laundry/housekeeping room (approx. 13 sqm / 140 sq ft)
- Office (approx. 20 sqm / 215 sq ft)
- Storage (approx. 13 sqm / 140 sq ft)

The sizes might vary slightly depending on needs, but the hobby room fits as planned.

Now the question is, how to heat it?

- Underfloor heating – the offer is around 13,500 euros
- Electric radiators – offer about 400 euros each x 3 = 1,200 euros
- Infrared heating – no offer yet, but presumably similar cost to electric radiators (?)

My thoughts:
- The hobby room will likely only be used for a relatively few hours – maybe 10 hours per week maximum.
- The office is planned for occasional work – so not a full home office, especially since I still have space upstairs at the moment… it could also become a gym or something in the future, so rather multifunctional. Definitely not a permanent living space.

So I’m thinking of going with proper underfloor heating – but for that money you can do a lot of electric heating 😉 I don’t know much about this, but isn’t underfloor heating so slow that you’d have to keep it running almost constantly in the basement for just a few hours of use per week? You wouldn’t just decide to watch a film and have it warm immediately, right?

I’m leaning toward the infrared solution. What do you think?
Nida35a13 Feb 2021 15:34
Maybe an alternative would be to have the underfloor heating prepared up to the manifold and design a renovation system yourself.
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T_im_Norden
13 Feb 2021 17:27
What is a hydraulic separator used for anyway?
It all sounds a bit strange.
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pagoni2020
13 Feb 2021 17:46
SaschaL schrieb:

Now I’m thinking, just do it properly right away with underfloor heating.

One system isn’t necessarily better than the other; they’re just different.
Due to the negative associations with night storage heaters, people tend to glorify one system and condemn the other. But, as is often the case, it’s not that simple.
We currently have underfloor heating everywhere, but our guest room is rarely used. We basically heat it all the time, even though we hardly need to, and when we do need it, we can’t quickly warm it up because underfloor heating is too slow to respond.
I miss having individual control with this system.
Since I had a traditional radiator heating system in the old house that I was happy with, I was looking forward to underfloor heating. Now I have to say, I find it nice, but I do see its downsides for me.
We are building a KfW40Plus (energy-efficient) house and will heat the entire home with infrared heating, plus a central wood stove. Therefore, I would definitely choose infrared heating in the basement with low supply temperatures, and avoid stone or tile floors. If you want to use the room, you heat it; otherwise, you don’t. I believe this type of heating is also cheaper for everyday use because with underfloor heating, you always need to maintain room temperature or plan heating your TV time days in advance and still end up heating unnecessarily.
In my opinion, your specific question here is a classic example why underfloor heating might not be the best choice, not to mention the very high installation costs.
You can also nicely integrate modules, for example recessed in the ceiling, and once you dig deeper and explore beyond typical fairground vendors, you’ll find good options.
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T_im_Norden
13 Feb 2021 18:55
Infrared heating? I'm curious to see how that works.
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pagoni2020
13 Feb 2021 19:14
T_im_Norden schrieb:

Infrared heating? I’m curious about that.
...me too 😀
No, I actually find it really interesting and have connected with some good people on the topic, including an energy consultant who has implemented this many times.
I also know several architects who often use this method and I will share updates myself... but for now, the excavator is still waiting for the frost to disappear.
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Fuchur
13 Feb 2021 23:20
SaschaL schrieb:

The costs include the heating system itself, an additional increase including higher screed, a hydraulic separator, and the extension of the mechanical ventilation system into the basement areas.

And does the question of ventilation not arise with other heating types? I would predict that the increase in the basement’s structural height is the largest cost factor here.

Is the planned floor construction even suitable for different types of floor coverings, and what will be installed there? Tiles without underfloor heating in the basement are simply cold.

By way of comparison: We have screed throughout the basement and mechanical ventilation in all rooms. Later, we added underfloor heating for a 40m² (430 sq ft) room in the basement. That cost us €1350 net, including the additional required manifold.