Hello everyone, we need your ideas….
This is a commercial boundary development with 230m² (2,474 sq ft). A double extension has been added to the main house, which we have marked in red as a “breakthrough.” Therefore, changes such as creating a new opening or relocating a door in these areas are not possible. So far, only the exterior walls (thick walls in the sketch) exist; the rest needs to be newly constructed.
The ceiling height is currently 3m (10 ft). It is a bungalow with a flat roof, which we would like to modify. This needs to be discussed with the roofer because the extension is connected to a residential building, and windows etc. must be taken into account.
There are display windows on all three structures, which we have already replaced in our plan with regular windows. We would like to move the entrance door to create a room for the heating system. If possible, we want to use geothermal heating. Underfloor heating is planned for the kitchen, bathrooms, hallway, and living room, and depending on the budget, in the other rooms as well.
An open-plan kitchen-living area is not an option for us, nor do we want any rooms to be walk-through rooms. The plan must include 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1 office, living room, and kitchen. So far, we are 2 adults and 2 small children.
Unfortunately, we do not have a basement room, so this area is unavailable for use. Below us are garages or basements, where parts of the sewage system may possibly be located.
Structural information will still be obtained to consider the use of materials for walls and more. We would like to work with aerated concrete, if possible.
We are open to ideas so that our dream of a home can become a reality soon.
Thank you very much in advance for your efforts and have a nice weekend.
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Best regards, Building Expert
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This is a commercial boundary development with 230m² (2,474 sq ft). A double extension has been added to the main house, which we have marked in red as a “breakthrough.” Therefore, changes such as creating a new opening or relocating a door in these areas are not possible. So far, only the exterior walls (thick walls in the sketch) exist; the rest needs to be newly constructed.
The ceiling height is currently 3m (10 ft). It is a bungalow with a flat roof, which we would like to modify. This needs to be discussed with the roofer because the extension is connected to a residential building, and windows etc. must be taken into account.
There are display windows on all three structures, which we have already replaced in our plan with regular windows. We would like to move the entrance door to create a room for the heating system. If possible, we want to use geothermal heating. Underfloor heating is planned for the kitchen, bathrooms, hallway, and living room, and depending on the budget, in the other rooms as well.
An open-plan kitchen-living area is not an option for us, nor do we want any rooms to be walk-through rooms. The plan must include 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1 office, living room, and kitchen. So far, we are 2 adults and 2 small children.
Unfortunately, we do not have a basement room, so this area is unavailable for use. Below us are garages or basements, where parts of the sewage system may possibly be located.
Structural information will still be obtained to consider the use of materials for walls and more. We would like to work with aerated concrete, if possible.
We are open to ideas so that our dream of a home can become a reality soon.
Thank you very much in advance for your efforts and have a nice weekend.
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I have taken the liberty of replacing the pdf attachments with visible jpgs so that all users can participate in the discussion.
Best regards, Building Expert
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avalanche20 Oct 2016 21:09Hello everyone,
we’ve had eventful days. The meeting with the building authority was very positive, and now we have approval for windows on all sides. No additional fire protection requirements are necessary.
We also had a discussion with an architect who inspected the site. The wastewater connection will probably only be possible in the front area (specifically at the height where Kerstin planned the main bathroom; to the left of that, nothing is possible, not even a kitchen). We will have a clearer picture after the second meeting with the architect, once the documents have been reviewed.
From his perspective, the roof should also be insulated from the inside and can remain as is. This would allow lighting as Yvonne had planned.
We are sure that there needs to be four bedrooms.
The insulation, except for the front area where the shop windows are, will be full thermal insulation all around. The architect wants to take a closer look when the windows are being installed.
Yes, it’s not possible without an architect, and now we’re waiting for a cost estimate.
The entrance can be located in the second extension, but only 1.10m (3.6 feet) from the left wall. After that, there is a slope.
Best regards, Carolin
we’ve had eventful days. The meeting with the building authority was very positive, and now we have approval for windows on all sides. No additional fire protection requirements are necessary.
We also had a discussion with an architect who inspected the site. The wastewater connection will probably only be possible in the front area (specifically at the height where Kerstin planned the main bathroom; to the left of that, nothing is possible, not even a kitchen). We will have a clearer picture after the second meeting with the architect, once the documents have been reviewed.
From his perspective, the roof should also be insulated from the inside and can remain as is. This would allow lighting as Yvonne had planned.
We are sure that there needs to be four bedrooms.
The insulation, except for the front area where the shop windows are, will be full thermal insulation all around. The architect wants to take a closer look when the windows are being installed.
Yes, it’s not possible without an architect, and now we’re waiting for a cost estimate.
The entrance can be located in the second extension, but only 1.10m (3.6 feet) from the left wall. After that, there is a slope.
Best regards, Carolin
The situation with the windows is initially encouraging.
Kitchen wastewater/water is not that complicated. Let's first clarify what needs to be done with the floor structure. For example, there should be a way to route the kitchen wastewater from the kitchen area to the bathroom based on my plan. From there, we can proceed together.
In my opinion, there would then be little need to deal with roof windows or similar.
Kitchen wastewater/water is not that complicated. Let's first clarify what needs to be done with the floor structure. For example, there should be a way to route the kitchen wastewater from the kitchen area to the bathroom based on my plan. From there, we can proceed together.
In my opinion, there would then be little need to deal with roof windows or similar.
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avalanche6 Dec 2016 21:38Hello,
we are getting back to you after some time. In the meantime, we have received the first draft from our architect.
The entrance has now been moved to the central part of the house. Additionally, it is not possible to relocate the wastewater pipes to the rear area. Therefore, the bathrooms and kitchen can only be altered to a limited extent.
What do you think about this? Feedback and suggestions for improvement are welcome.
Best regards,
Florian
we are getting back to you after some time. In the meantime, we have received the first draft from our architect.
The entrance has now been moved to the central part of the house. Additionally, it is not possible to relocate the wastewater pipes to the rear area. Therefore, the bathrooms and kitchen can only be altered to a limited extent.
What do you think about this? Feedback and suggestions for improvement are welcome.
Best regards,
Florian
hm ... Child 3 is a bit messed up 😉 .. by the way, it’s advisable to keep the orientation of floor plans consistent. Including measurements is always helpful.
The corridor from the entrance to the bedroom looks narrow and very dark. Overall, it’s a layout with long distances. Items like the vacuum cleaner only have space in the utility room/pantry, which is quite far from the children’s rooms.
For comparison... new plan:
My plan (regarding measurements etc.):
I would probably still prefer my layout, and if it really isn’t possible to run plumbing for the kitchen on the left side of the plan—which still seems odd to me given the described circumstances—then I would place the master bedroom on the left side and put the dining/cooking area in the center.
The entrance in my plan could also be moved to the top of the plan, in the area in front of the guest bathroom. This way, the space in front of the working area could also be used as a wardrobe.
The corridor from the entrance to the bedroom looks narrow and very dark. Overall, it’s a layout with long distances. Items like the vacuum cleaner only have space in the utility room/pantry, which is quite far from the children’s rooms.
For comparison... new plan:
My plan (regarding measurements etc.):
I would probably still prefer my layout, and if it really isn’t possible to run plumbing for the kitchen on the left side of the plan—which still seems odd to me given the described circumstances—then I would place the master bedroom on the left side and put the dining/cooking area in the center.
The entrance in my plan could also be moved to the top of the plan, in the area in front of the guest bathroom. This way, the space in front of the working area could also be used as a wardrobe.
Well, I would only want to be Child 1 and definitely not Child 3...
The bathrooms have to stay as they are, if I understood that correctly, right?
For me, that would be too much of a narrow corridor, and if the somewhat convoluted floor plan is fixed, you might need some unconventional solutions.
Here, I would put a door in the hallway between the guest bathroom and the kitchen wall and remove the thin red wall (what do the colors signify?). Maybe you can create an open living area here and rather work with room dividers. So also remove the wall at the top of the plan towards the kids’ rooms. Then you could possibly redesign the kids’ rooms a bit and also make the bathroom layout more spacious because the corner by the hallway would be gone. I find the bathroom size quite tight for five people.
So the living room would be more like a “family room” as often seen in Scandinavian floor plans. That would reduce the feeling of narrow corridors and the “prison corridor” sensation I get when looking at the plan.
Since that is quite a thick wall (the gray one between the living room and the hallway to the kids’ rooms), it’s probably load-bearing. Then consider whether you could shorten it or reduce it to a (possibly slightly wider) support column.
Child 3 still got the short end of the stick. Maybe make Child 1’s room a bit smaller (move the partition wall to Child 2’s room to the left) and pass the gained space on to Child 3.
I can’t remember if Child 3 really exists or if that’s only a future possibility. If it’s just a “maybe” option and the room otherwise serves as a guest room, I could live with that. If there are already three children, the design honestly falls short.
Kbts’s design will probably fail due to the connection requirements.
The bathrooms have to stay as they are, if I understood that correctly, right?
For me, that would be too much of a narrow corridor, and if the somewhat convoluted floor plan is fixed, you might need some unconventional solutions.
Here, I would put a door in the hallway between the guest bathroom and the kitchen wall and remove the thin red wall (what do the colors signify?). Maybe you can create an open living area here and rather work with room dividers. So also remove the wall at the top of the plan towards the kids’ rooms. Then you could possibly redesign the kids’ rooms a bit and also make the bathroom layout more spacious because the corner by the hallway would be gone. I find the bathroom size quite tight for five people.
So the living room would be more like a “family room” as often seen in Scandinavian floor plans. That would reduce the feeling of narrow corridors and the “prison corridor” sensation I get when looking at the plan.
Since that is quite a thick wall (the gray one between the living room and the hallway to the kids’ rooms), it’s probably load-bearing. Then consider whether you could shorten it or reduce it to a (possibly slightly wider) support column.
Child 3 still got the short end of the stick. Maybe make Child 1’s room a bit smaller (move the partition wall to Child 2’s room to the left) and pass the gained space on to Child 3.
I can’t remember if Child 3 really exists or if that’s only a future possibility. If it’s just a “maybe” option and the room otherwise serves as a guest room, I could live with that. If there are already three children, the design honestly falls short.
Kbts’s design will probably fail due to the connection requirements.
@Climbee .. I don’t have time right now, but I described a few change suggestions for my design. The main point is that the kitchen moves to the center as an open-plan living area. The living room remains as I planned it, as a retreat space.
In the architect’s plan, red indicates newly built walls, meaning that originally there were old door or window openings there. Yellow shows new openings in existing walls.
For my markings:
- darker gray = close existing openings
- blue = windows/patio doors in existing openings
- green = new windows/patio doors
- walls in orange are only about 110 cm (43 inches) high .. serving as a back wall for the kitchen bench
In post 12 you can find the current floor plan layout with dimensions as a PDF.
In the architect’s plan, red indicates newly built walls, meaning that originally there were old door or window openings there. Yellow shows new openings in existing walls.
For my markings:
- darker gray = close existing openings
- blue = windows/patio doors in existing openings
- green = new windows/patio doors
- walls in orange are only about 110 cm (43 inches) high .. serving as a back wall for the kitchen bench
In post 12 you can find the current floor plan layout with dimensions as a PDF.
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