ᐅ Floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor without a parapet or knee wall
Created on: 9 Jun 2021 19:27
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Reltaw2021
Hello everyone!
I have been following the forum for a while, but now I have some current questions that I haven’t found answers to yet, so I have become a more active member.
I would like to avoid using guard rails on the lower edge of floor-to-ceiling windows upstairs to eliminate the risk of falling from the window sill.
Therefore, I plan to implement the following alternative measures:
1. Use safety glass corresponding to category A *
2. Lockable with a key, with the key stored elsewhere
3. Visible indicators on the window such as blinds or frosted glass stickers
4. Restrict access by placing furniture or plants in front of the windows
Has anyone here already received official building approval for something like this?
I would also be willing to remove the window handles if it came down to it.
For those who haven’t figured it out yet—I’m not a fan of French balconies, transoms, or divided windows.
Perhaps someone has done something similar with windows that are basically fixed?
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Retlaw
* DIN 18008-4
I have been following the forum for a while, but now I have some current questions that I haven’t found answers to yet, so I have become a more active member.
I would like to avoid using guard rails on the lower edge of floor-to-ceiling windows upstairs to eliminate the risk of falling from the window sill.
Therefore, I plan to implement the following alternative measures:
1. Use safety glass corresponding to category A *
2. Lockable with a key, with the key stored elsewhere
3. Visible indicators on the window such as blinds or frosted glass stickers
4. Restrict access by placing furniture or plants in front of the windows
Has anyone here already received official building approval for something like this?
I would also be willing to remove the window handles if it came down to it.
For those who haven’t figured it out yet—I’m not a fan of French balconies, transoms, or divided windows.
Perhaps someone has done something similar with windows that are basically fixed?
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Retlaw
* DIN 18008-4
nordanney schrieb:
But that is quite different from a patio door on the upper floor leading nowhere.I completely agree, although the building authority doesn’t care about that. In our case as well (roof terrace without fall protection), access to it basically has to be blocked.R
Reltaw202110 Jun 2021 16:00K1300S schrieb:
The "intended" scenario for the inspection is always: an intoxicated guest stands by the window. They can probably still open it (if it is openable) – and therefore also fall out. That is why some kind of mechanical protection against falling out must be in place. My drunk person would have to be alert enough to find all the hidden keys.
This what-if scenario is certainly not too strict for rental apartments or multi-family buildings. But if you know which residents have access to which rooms, the risks are manageable.
I just wonder if the inspector can agree with that line of thinking.
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nordanney10 Jun 2021 16:02Reltaw2021 schrieb:
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hampshire10 Jun 2021 16:07Reltaw2021 schrieb:
I’m just wondering whether the inspector will agree with this idea.He certainly can. And rightfully, he will consider what is common practice. Additionally, he is responsible for ensuring compliance with the regulations at the time of the final inspection. What you do afterwards is largely your own business and your liability risk. It is not productive to try to persuade the inspector to overlook anything. Your private home won’t lose any approval or face closure because of this.
Reltaw2021 schrieb:
Really? Can you share a picture? I can't imagine what something like that looks like. Just google Warema Visio Neo. We have those too. The external venetian blinds operate on the outside. We've had many visitors asking how we managed the fall protection (when looking from the inside). They are hardly noticeable when the window is closed.
Reltaw2021 schrieb:
I just wonder if the building inspector would go along with that idea.An acquaintance of ours works in that field. He can’t, unless he’s drunk enough himself. 😉