ᐅ Floor plans... a first draft! Any feedback or praise?

Where is the whole family supposed to eat? With 3-4 children's bedrooms, I assume there are 3-4 children. But you only have space for 4 people at the dining table...

Bay window facing north?

What else can be said? This is probably one of the worst designs ever.

Hello ypg and Fiddy. First of all, I never claimed that the second design was mine. Besides, I wonder what difference that would make. And a scanned sheet... really, let’s stay grounded! Who cares about that? The "scanned" floor plan is the initial rough draft from an architect (a very sought-after one at that). Which again brings me to the question of why some feel entitled to call it "terrible" (especially since the house is far from fully planned and hasn’t even been adapted to the plot yet – forget about the north side).

That said, I am very grateful to both of you for suggesting alternative solutions. Constructive criticism is one thing, crude language is another. We can certainly discuss other solutions in a constructive way. The “everyone’s stupid except me” attitude just doesn’t work anymore in 2013!

Here are the parameters:

- Hobby room/office
- 3-4 children’s rooms
- Technical room + utility room
- No basement
- No garage
- Gable roof
- Kitchen with pantry
- Living room completely separable
- Room divider between dining and living area must be a tiled stove, accessible from both sides
- Toilet on the ground floor
- Separate sleeping area with dressing room apart from the children’s rooms
- At least 185 square meters (1990 square feet) of living space

I’m really looking forward to it!

Oh man, Fiddy, there are four chairs… you’re right! PLUS a corner bench (obvious to anyone paying close attention)! That makes enough seating. Plus repositioning the table, plus extending the table, plus adding another table, and so on… when family gatherings happen again.

Leon schrieb:
... The "scanned" floor plan is the first rough draft by an architect (a highly sought-after one, too). ...

I hardly believe that either, because an architect, no matter how good or bad, would normally plan chimneys and downpipes, among other things.
If there is supposed to be a tiled stove between the dining and living rooms, then a) the hallway in between is too narrow and b) a chimney is missing. If you were to include a ventilation duct, it would run in front of a child’s bedroom window and through the parents’ bedroom. Then the drawing no longer makes sense. The pantry is too large, but the kitchen is barely usable, with no workspace. The stove is right next to the sink, which is also not common practice.
Otherwise, I don’t find it that bad, although given the possibilities (area, footprint), I would expect more creativity from an architect.
I also don’t understand the bay window.

The green dot next to the stove is meant to represent an external chimney. The bay window was already removed in the revised version because, as you mentioned, we didn’t understand it either. I suppose it’s a small example of architectural freedom (and I’ve seen so many strange plans that made no sense and were structurally questionable, yet somehow earned the architect a peculiar award).

In our current house, we also have the stove next to the sink and haven’t noticed any drawbacks so far.

The size of the kitchen is definitely a point that needs to be discussed again.

I much prefer this kind of conversation because it allows others to reconsider what seems like a very good plan. Thank you for your helpful input!

Leon schrieb:
I much prefer this kind of conversation because it allows third parties to reconsider the supposedly very good plan. Thank you for your food for thought!

No... I’m not a fan of destructive criticism... I’ve been a victim of such comments myself as the person asking the question. What’s the point of a “crappy” comment if you don’t know why! 🙁

Now I can recognize the stove pipe.
Cooking and washing up are like fire and water... you don’t do them at the same time; there are basic principles for a functional, ideal kitchen. You can look them up easily 🙂
Anyway, there’s a new plan, so the cramped kitchen space will be resolved too 😎