ᐅ Floor plan with a porch despite an airspace in a townhouse
Created on: 14 Jul 2023 23:18
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Freistoß88
Hello everyone,
I would like to ask the floor plan experts for advice here. 🙂
I have designed a single-family house and encountered a problem. Currently, I have planned a continuous front with the main entrance door and windows in the entrance area. On the upper floor, I have planned an open space (void) above the entrance door area.
Due to rain and because the front door faces west, I have now decided to add a canopy. Here is where the problem starts.
I want to have a concrete canopy supported by two posts. However, the open space is exactly in that area, so I cannot use existing support walls or columns. Do you have any ideas on how I can install a canopy there without losing the open space?
Attached you will find my floor plans for the ground floor and upper floor, as well as an image of the canopy as I envision it.
I would really appreciate any help!
I would like to ask the floor plan experts for advice here. 🙂
I have designed a single-family house and encountered a problem. Currently, I have planned a continuous front with the main entrance door and windows in the entrance area. On the upper floor, I have planned an open space (void) above the entrance door area.
Due to rain and because the front door faces west, I have now decided to add a canopy. Here is where the problem starts.
I want to have a concrete canopy supported by two posts. However, the open space is exactly in that area, so I cannot use existing support walls or columns. Do you have any ideas on how I can install a canopy there without losing the open space?
Attached you will find my floor plans for the ground floor and upper floor, as well as an image of the canopy as I envision it.
I would really appreciate any help!
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Freistoß8815 Jul 2023 13:4611ant schrieb:
I was surprised that @Sunshine387 even tried to respond, since your quick snapshot snippets of the floor plans hardly provide enough information for participants to understand what the whole project is supposed to be like.
I don’t want to rule it out, but I don’t share the hope: starting with that approach and then presenting floor plans that are 90% not shown strikes me as downright audacious :-( What specific added value does my complete floor plan offer you? You are all just floor plan collectors.
With concrete questions, you don’t get any further here. This was an experiment with the forum. But this is really the worst. You might as well give up on this forum.
I’m going to the structural engineer and architect, where at least I have qualified professionals. You all act as if you hold all the answers.
Please close this thread. What a mess :-)
Freistoß88 schrieb:
What specific added value does my complete floor plan offer you? You are all just floor plan collectors. For us, the complete floor plan provides the basis for a reasonable diagnosis and recommendation of treatment to your benefit (and a bit also for the readers who are less interested in floor plans of luxury houses, since the credit rating class @rick2018 is in the minority here).
Freistoß88 schrieb:
I go to the structural engineer and architect; at least there I have qualified professionals. You all act as if you are the ultimate authority. I always recommend this classic source of professional expertise. However, there are also many experienced builders here who contribute to the community, not least by sharing their mistakes. If you come here only to ask one-sided questions, you won’t be missed, fare well.
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Hello Freistoß88,
I’m not an expert myself, a complete beginner, and I’m also planning to build a city villa while considering different floor plans.
Regarding your question, see the attached image—I would widen the 17.5cm (7 inches) walls to 24cm (9.5 inches) and embed a horizontal beam that extends forward and rests on the vertical columns (green).
That should effectively support the load from the roof slab, right?
Is that the company Q-Logic from Düren? Maybe they use such reinforcements.
Change of topic:
I’ve added a recommendation about the utility room (HAR). Many of my coworkers who have already built regret that their utility rooms are not about 10m² (108 sq ft). If photovoltaic systems are added in a few years, space gets tight for the inverter, washing machine, etc. But that’s just a gentle thought.
I haven’t signed anything yet but am about to.
The open space you are planning is a luxury—I was considering it too but changed my mind.
I really like in your design that the width of the staircase is one-third of the width of the stairwell.
I plan the staircase either entirely on the right side with 1m (3.3 ft) width, or entirely on the left side with 1m (3.3 ft), then about 2m (6.5 ft) of walking space next to it.
But those are personal views; of course, everyone decides what they prefer.
Best regards,
Klaus Henkelmann

I’m not an expert myself, a complete beginner, and I’m also planning to build a city villa while considering different floor plans.
Regarding your question, see the attached image—I would widen the 17.5cm (7 inches) walls to 24cm (9.5 inches) and embed a horizontal beam that extends forward and rests on the vertical columns (green).
That should effectively support the load from the roof slab, right?
Is that the company Q-Logic from Düren? Maybe they use such reinforcements.
Change of topic:
I’ve added a recommendation about the utility room (HAR). Many of my coworkers who have already built regret that their utility rooms are not about 10m² (108 sq ft). If photovoltaic systems are added in a few years, space gets tight for the inverter, washing machine, etc. But that’s just a gentle thought.
I haven’t signed anything yet but am about to.
The open space you are planning is a luxury—I was considering it too but changed my mind.
I really like in your design that the width of the staircase is one-third of the width of the stairwell.
I plan the staircase either entirely on the right side with 1m (3.3 ft) width, or entirely on the left side with 1m (3.3 ft), then about 2m (6.5 ft) of walking space next to it.
But those are personal views; of course, everyone decides what they prefer.
Best regards,
Klaus Henkelmann
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xMisterDx16 Jul 2023 19:34Freistoß88 schrieb:
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I go to the structural engineer and architect because at least there I have skilled professionals. You all act as if you are the ultimate experts.
Please just close this thread. Total mess 🙂But you will have to pay them for advice, which seems to really upset you. Good luck with that.
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hanghaus202316 Jul 2023 20:38I’m asking you what the blue line is for?
In my opinion, it is meant to define the building plot. The architect will explain what that means to you.
Unfortunately, your free kick missed the goal.
In my opinion, it is meant to define the building plot. The architect will explain what that means to you.
Unfortunately, your free kick missed the goal.
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