We would like to present the plans for our "retirement home."
Now that most of the children have moved out, we wanted a house just for the two of us without many compromises.
It will surely attract some controversial comments, but that’s exactly what makes it interesting.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 660m2 (7100 sq ft)
No slope
Located in village center, no formal development plan / zoning restrictions
Triple garage
2 full stories
Roof type: gable
Style: traditional / classic
Orientation: south
No height limits / restrictions – "adapted to the surroundings"
Homeowners' Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
No basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 people, 50+
Important features:
- a large wellness room on the upper floor
- spacious kitchen and pantry
- generous bedroom with dressing area
- generally large, open rooms
- low-barrier design (you’re not getting any younger)
House Design
Planning developed by:
- 90% do-it-yourself
Now that most of the children have moved out, we wanted a house just for the two of us without many compromises.
It will surely attract some controversial comments, but that’s exactly what makes it interesting.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 660m2 (7100 sq ft)
No slope
Located in village center, no formal development plan / zoning restrictions
Triple garage
2 full stories
Roof type: gable
Style: traditional / classic
Orientation: south
No height limits / restrictions – "adapted to the surroundings"
Homeowners' Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
No basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 people, 50+
Important features:
- a large wellness room on the upper floor
- spacious kitchen and pantry
- generous bedroom with dressing area
- generally large, open rooms
- low-barrier design (you’re not getting any younger)
House Design
Planning developed by:
- 90% do-it-yourself
Well... Plans should always be designed to match the intended furniture layout. And having a bed with the headboard against the right-hand wall is even worse, since one side of the bed ends up in the walkway leading to the wellness area.
And honestly, statements like
strike me as completely pointless if there’s no explanation of the reasoning behind the layout... sorry to be so blunt, but the information you’ve provided about your project seems designed so that you won’t accept any other responses and are basically just "fishing for approval."
You have allocated a position for the stair lift, but if it’s used, the hallway passage to the living area... well, I would say it’s no longer accessible. Also, installations like bathrooms etc. should at least be designed with the consideration of (main topic)
to be somewhat barrier-free or low-barrier, especially in terms of the floor area.
And honestly, statements like
IMOliver schrieb:
Unnecessarily large = matter of opinion
strike me as completely pointless if there’s no explanation of the reasoning behind the layout... sorry to be so blunt, but the information you’ve provided about your project seems designed so that you won’t accept any other responses and are basically just "fishing for approval."
IMOliver schrieb:
It’s not accessible, but not strictly required either. If accessibility becomes necessary in a few years, the necessary adjustments, like a stair lift, should be doable without major effort.
You have allocated a position for the stair lift, but if it’s used, the hallway passage to the living area... well, I would say it’s no longer accessible. Also, installations like bathrooms etc. should at least be designed with the consideration of (main topic)
Spacious house, low-barrier design
to be somewhat barrier-free or low-barrier, especially in terms of the floor area.
IMOliver schrieb:
3 cars and the ceiling height simply result from the roof design.3 cars for 2 people, why is that? And a clear site plan with street access, garden area, or something similar?
By the way: Does the floor space index really indicate how much of the plot is built on? The house and garage alone cover almost 250 sqm (2700 sq ft) of 660 sqm (7100 sq ft), plus terrace, access path, etc.
kbt09 schrieb:
And honestly, comments like
I just find completely pointless if you don’t explain the reasoning behind your layout … sorry to be so direct, but the information you provide about your project is presented in a way that suggests you’re not open to other answers but rather looking for “fishing for approval.” I don’t need or want approval. Everyone is free to think it’s nonsense.
kbt09 schrieb:
… 3 cars for 2 people … why is that?
And a clear site plan showing street access, garden area, or something similar?
Just by the way … does the floor area ratio really allow that much of the plot to be built on? The house and garage alone are almost 250 sqm (2,690 sq ft) of 660, plus terrace, driveway, etc. Do you have to justify owning more than one car these days? Does it help that two of them are electric?
By the way, it’s all officially approved…
So, what exactly is your goal with this floor plan discussion? You shortened the linked list of questions from this forum section by removing everything that helps to understand a plan and the people behind it.
And no, in principle, nobody has to justify themselves, but if you present yourself publicly for discussion, you must be able to handle questions, and if you really want to gain something, you also have to answer questions, including those about missing information. And not just by picking selective points.
And no, in principle, nobody has to justify themselves, but if you present yourself publicly for discussion, you must be able to handle questions, and if you really want to gain something, you also have to answer questions, including those about missing information. And not just by picking selective points.
I find the kitchen extremely impractical and unattractive. Is there already a plan for it?
In my opinion, the upper floor is a disaster. Unnecessary walk-through rooms are maddening.
The desire for so much space in old age is rather unusual. At that level, I would at least expect the room for a housekeeper or caregiver to be an option.
In my opinion, the upper floor is a disaster. Unnecessary walk-through rooms are maddening.
The desire for so much space in old age is rather unusual. At that level, I would at least expect the room for a housekeeper or caregiver to be an option.
If an elevator is necessary, the house has narrow passages. The bathroom on the upper floor only works if you have two healthy legs and do not need any assistance.
The entrance hall on the ground floor, the toilet, and the wardrobe are not suitable for an elevator or limited mobility.
Since money seems to be available, I would consider planning a room with a small bathroom for a caregiver or household help. Age and illnesses might make this necessary.
This floor plan is not for me. The kitchen is compact, the passage to the pantry is narrow, and you can hear the heat pump next to the sofa. The bedroom feels like a loveless dance hall furnished only with a bed and a wardrobe.
What is the purpose of the wellness room? No access to a terrace desired?
It can be done smaller and better.
The entrance hall on the ground floor, the toilet, and the wardrobe are not suitable for an elevator or limited mobility.
Since money seems to be available, I would consider planning a room with a small bathroom for a caregiver or household help. Age and illnesses might make this necessary.
This floor plan is not for me. The kitchen is compact, the passage to the pantry is narrow, and you can hear the heat pump next to the sofa. The bedroom feels like a loveless dance hall furnished only with a bed and a wardrobe.
What is the purpose of the wellness room? No access to a terrace desired?
It can be done smaller and better.
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