Hello everyone,
We are planning to build in the near future and have already reserved the plot. Unfortunately, there is no access road yet, and we have not chosen a builder yet.
We would really appreciate your help and feedback.
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 816m² (9850 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see image
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 1 full floor
Roof type: "[...] only pitched roofs with slopes between 18° and 48° permitted. Barrel and (half) arched roofs are not permitted. Shed roofs are only allowed if built as double-pitched roofs with slopes in opposite directions. Offset roof surfaces are allowed."
Architectural style
Orientation: ridge from west to east
Maximum heights / limits: max. building height = 9.5m (31 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ requirements
Style, roof form, building type: We want a kind of gable roof; everything else is quite flexible
Basement, floors: Partial basement for technical equipment, office, and storage. Preferably fully underground so no stairs in front of the entrance
Number of occupants, ages: Expected 4 (2 adults in their mid-30s, 2 children under 4)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Upper floor: large children’s rooms, decent main bathroom, preferably with a walk-in closet;
Ground floor: moderately large kitchen, bathroom with shower, utility room with space for storage
Office: also for home office
Guests per year: about 5 visits with 2 guests each
Open or closed layout: rather open
Conservative or modern architecture: doesn’t matter
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open
Number of dining seats: 1 table for 6, or 8 if squeezing together
Fireplace: possibly later an ethanol wall fireplace (where the piano currently stands)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: small vegetable garden
Additional wishes / special needs / daily routine, including reasons for preferences
House design
Who created the design:
- Do-it-yourself, partially based on builders' designs
What do you especially like? Why? I am basically happy with every room.
What do you dislike? Why? The bathroom on the upper floor is a bit tight? With only 1 full floor and 1.64m (5 ft 4 in) knee wall height and a resulting 18° roof slope, we wouldn’t have usable attic space :\
Price estimate according to architect/designer:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 300,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to skip anything, which details/extras
- can you live without: sewing room; basement if there is an adequate solution for technical equipment and storage
- cannot do without: shower on ground floor, enough space in kitchen and utility room
Why is the design the way it is? For example:
Studied hundreds of floor plans and adapted the layout to the plot and our needs/preferences
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Is the house design reasonably feasible or are there major issues / deal breakers?
Is it okay to show such a design to various builders and ask for a rough cost estimate?
Many thanks in advance to all hardworking helpers




We are planning to build in the near future and have already reserved the plot. Unfortunately, there is no access road yet, and we have not chosen a builder yet.
We would really appreciate your help and feedback.
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 816m² (9850 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see image
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 1 full floor
Roof type: "[...] only pitched roofs with slopes between 18° and 48° permitted. Barrel and (half) arched roofs are not permitted. Shed roofs are only allowed if built as double-pitched roofs with slopes in opposite directions. Offset roof surfaces are allowed."
Architectural style
Orientation: ridge from west to east
Maximum heights / limits: max. building height = 9.5m (31 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ requirements
Style, roof form, building type: We want a kind of gable roof; everything else is quite flexible
Basement, floors: Partial basement for technical equipment, office, and storage. Preferably fully underground so no stairs in front of the entrance
Number of occupants, ages: Expected 4 (2 adults in their mid-30s, 2 children under 4)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Upper floor: large children’s rooms, decent main bathroom, preferably with a walk-in closet;
Ground floor: moderately large kitchen, bathroom with shower, utility room with space for storage
Office: also for home office
Guests per year: about 5 visits with 2 guests each
Open or closed layout: rather open
Conservative or modern architecture: doesn’t matter
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open
Number of dining seats: 1 table for 6, or 8 if squeezing together
Fireplace: possibly later an ethanol wall fireplace (where the piano currently stands)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: small vegetable garden
Additional wishes / special needs / daily routine, including reasons for preferences
House design
Who created the design:
- Do-it-yourself, partially based on builders' designs
What do you especially like? Why? I am basically happy with every room.
What do you dislike? Why? The bathroom on the upper floor is a bit tight? With only 1 full floor and 1.64m (5 ft 4 in) knee wall height and a resulting 18° roof slope, we wouldn’t have usable attic space :\
Price estimate according to architect/designer:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 300,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to skip anything, which details/extras
- can you live without: sewing room; basement if there is an adequate solution for technical equipment and storage
- cannot do without: shower on ground floor, enough space in kitchen and utility room
Why is the design the way it is? For example:
Studied hundreds of floor plans and adapted the layout to the plot and our needs/preferences
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Is the house design reasonably feasible or are there major issues / deal breakers?
Is it okay to show such a design to various builders and ask for a rough cost estimate?
Many thanks in advance to all hardworking helpers
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hampshire4 Nov 2020 23:46What I like:
- Spacious children's rooms
- Wooden porch in front of the main entrance
- Sewing room – nice to have space for hobbies (also room to plan for a piano)
- Cramped living area
- Too small for 4 people
- Unfriendly layout – everything focused on one screen
- Located in a narrow passageway to the terrace
- Closed-off living space
- Only one door leading outside
- Window placement in relation to where people spend time
- Narrow kitchen
- Work surfaces in corner areas are usually hardly usable
- Limited freedom of movement
- Passages too tight
- Narrow staircase
- A challenge when moving large items (bed, furniture)
- Narrow hallway on the upper floor
- Reminds me of hallways in English terraced houses for workers from the Industrial Revolution era. I wouldn’t choose that, and you get to decide when building.
- Unsuitable place for working from home
- It’s hot, noisy, and tight in that area. I would rather work with a laptop at the dining table.
- Where does the preference for tight spaces come from?
- What is the purpose of an open space above the wardrobe?
- Why are clothes drying racks placed next to beds?
KlausBautHaus schrieb:
You couldKlausBautHaus schrieb:
These can easily be resizedKlausBautHaus schrieb:
In the bathroom, you couldYou could also plan better from the start instead of improvising and fixing later.KlausBautHaus schrieb:
since it is intended for the following purposes: for guests, as storage space for odds and ends, a place where children can possibly set up a train without cluttering their rooms, and as a bedroom in old age when tired joints no longer want to deal with stairs.The room is supposed to serve many purposes, but the house is not suitable for everyday living.KlausBautHaus schrieb:
But if you are generally not a fan of basements,This is not a basement, this is a dungeon... a bunker... it’s a hole buried underground without any natural light.KlausBautHaus schrieb:
if the sentence is too complicated, I can gladly quote the original passages).People whose names you can actively read here know about the clear ceiling height in full storeys.Just take a look at the profile to see how long the user has been giving advice.
KlausBautHaus schrieb:
and then end up with knee wall height of about 1.64m (5 feet 5 inches).And now you expect the masons to cut the bricks to the exact centimeter? That’s neither efficient nor common practice.Try using a curved shelf and then a functional floor plan or an architect.
KlausBautHaus schrieb:
where the clear height of 2.2 m (7 ft 3 in) is reached. From there, I then use the minimum allowed angle (18°) down to the exterior wall and end up at the knee wall with about 1.64 m (5 ft 5 in) height. [...] ??? Sorry, I really can’t make sense of that funny sentence. [...] And the space under the sloped ceilings is “more dead than alive”? [...] I’m attaching a sketch. However, there is little that is mysterious about it. [...] I want a pitched roof but have also mentioned that I have seen hipped roofs of this type from time to time.If I understand correctly, you marked your 2.20 m (7 ft 3 in) line about 1.72 m (5 ft 8 in) from the exterior wall and then sighted as flat as possible toward the eaves. That is the classic homeowner’s cleverness that optimizes the knee wall at the expense of attic space (as you probably noticed yourself). With a 30° roof pitch you would instead get a 1.20 m (3 ft 11 in) knee wall and a standing height of 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in) in the attic after 3.12 m (10 ft 3 in) — compared to 1.01 m (3 ft 4 in) at 18°. I find your freestyle “Mexican hat” roof shape at least curious, and apart from church towers I have indeed never seen it before. Your zoning regulations will most likely just plainly say “no” to it — however, the roof structure for it would probably add even more cost than the Pyrrhic basement.KlausBautHaus schrieb:
Seriously?As I said, assuming an understanding of your very particular line of thought, gladly.KlausBautHaus schrieb:
I’ll take a closer look at proven floor plans again.That sounds like a good plan. Better practical and functional than (unfortunately only) theoretically brilliant.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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