ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family detached house, urban villa style, approximately 2,600 sq ft, without a basement
Created on: 23 Apr 2022 11:06
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dkw8074
Hello,
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
dkw8074 schrieb:
No idea at all?What do you mean? You seem quite set in your ways when looking at the spring draft. If you want a built-in bench seat, the entire design would have to be different, or at least many parts would need to be changed. You’re not open to that. You have already committed the spaces for the bathrooms, and hardly any other rooms will be significantly moved. The worst part is the staircase location: instead of being central to connect the rooms and floors well, it’s placed to the side, causing mainly negative effects on the upper floor layouts.Looking at the chimney situation and the office entrance, I wonder why these aren’t aligned and the chimney hidden within the office. I’ve mentioned it before, but you’re not really open to discussing it.
K a t j a schrieb:
What do you want to combine the stove with? The built-in bench? That can’t be, as it would get too hot to sit there. So what do you mean exactly?
I would try to move the chimney to the hallway above, and below into the corner of the office. However, that can only be precisely planned if you have the upper and lower floors aligned and preferably plan it yourself. The chimney also must not intersect with the roof beams, which can’t just be roughly estimated by eye.
I didn’t receive much response on the other feedback I gave. That doesn’t exactly encourage enthusiasm. Regarding the stove/chimney, I’m aware that positioning is difficult without a detailed plan, so please disregard that.
My idea was how to accommodate both (the corner bench and the stove), not directly combined, but so that the stove can still serve as a room divider.
About your feedback: Sorry for not replying in more detail earlier; all points are valid and I will discuss them!
ypg schrieb:
What do you mean? You seem quite set in your ways when looking at the spring design. If you want a corner bench, the entire design would have to be different, or at least many things would need to be changed. You are not open to that. You have already claimed the spaces for the bathrooms, and hardly any other rooms will be significantly moved. The worst part is the location of the staircase: instead of being centrally placed to connect the rooms and floors well, it is pushed aside, so the upper floor rooms are accessed in a way that only has negative aspects. When I look at the chimney situation and the entrance area of the office, I wonder why these haven’t been aligned in one line with the chimney hidden within the office. I mentioned this, but you don’t seem to really consider it. Yes, I think I need to take a step back and apologize. We are still very satisfied with the design and ideally just want to optimize it, not question everything. I will pass on the suggestion about widening, but I’m not exactly sure what you mean about the staircase location. If I move the staircase, I would basically have to start over. What do you mean by “rooms being accessed with negative aspects”? Regarding the chimney/office: I hope it will be easier to resolve if we make the building a bit wider and longer.
dkw8074 schrieb:
aiming to optimize in the ideal caseOptimization only works if you make some changes. And you are not willing to do that. This is not a criticism but an observation. It would be good if you recognize this as well. Because this is exactly how the path to change begins.ypg schrieb:
Optimization only works if something is changed. And you are not willing to do that. This is not a criticism, but an observation. It would be good if you recognized that as well. Because that is exactly how the path to change begins.That may of course be the case; in any event, thank you very much for your input!
dkw8074 schrieb:
In general, the position of the stove/fireplace – it’s currently located somewhat inconveniently in a child’s bedroom on the first floorNonsense. You only have one child at the moment anyway, and the chimney reduces the size of the second child’s room by a negligible 0.06 m² (0.65 sq ft) compared to the first. Child 1 is currently in the room next to the parents and will, when reaching their teenage years, move to the other child’s room (cooler, since it’s further from the parents) or even to the fitness room (even cooler, with an extra 0.11 m² (1.18 sq ft) and even a nook). You are building a huge bay window on the street side of the house and then seriously complain about the little chimney between the bed and the door in the second child’s room … oy vey, ouch!https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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