ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family detached house, urban villa style, approximately 2,600 sq ft, without a basement
Created on: 23 Apr 2022 11:06
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dkw8074
Hello,
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
11ant schrieb:
Yes, by castle walls I mean the half-meter bricks.
I did not criticize the size. What the builder and draftsperson come up with often rivals the pranks of Max and Moritz. Leaving the "what we like" parts untouched during revisions is at the core of many, let’s say, “missed potential opportunities.” Even with my four decades of experience in home planning, I can't guarantee that you won’t be happy with your own design—but I can assure you that an unbiased architect’s plan with a high accuracy rate is definitely the better way 🙂 What would a better wall construction look like from your point of view? We will still reduce the garage/storage room walls to 30cm (12 inches).
An architect’s plan can never be completely unbiased either; personal preferences are just how they are. We have a view to the southwest and want to cover the terrace generously (possibly with photovoltaic panels on top). We already have another architect’s plan, with more floor area but still less usable space. That doesn’t really suit us...
It’s not a complete self-design either; it never was.
Well, it doesn’t have to be fully accessible for people with disabilities, but a bedroom with a structural size of 311 cm (10 ft 2 in) and a mattress width of about 180 cm (71 in) means there is only about 50 cm (20 in) of space on each side of the bed. It already gets tight when changing the bedsheets.
dkw8074 schrieb:
What would you consider a better wall construction? We will reduce the garage/storage room walls to 30cm (12 inches). Google "11ant Steinemantra" 🙂 and free yourself from the association "thick jacket keeps you warm."
dkw8074 schrieb:
An architectural plan can never be completely unbiased, personal preferences are just the way they are. We have a southwest view and want a generously covered terrace (possibly with photovoltaic panels installed). We already have another architectural plan, with more area but still less usable space. That just doesn’t suit us...
It was never a fully self-made plan anyway. By an unbiased architectural plan, I mean approaching a (freely and transparently self-funded!) architect without a heavy list of requirements, only with a room list. A copycat won’t get you anywhere. By the "other architectural plan," you probably mean an alternative draft from the draftsman of a different builder (?).
Still: a copy produced by a professional draftsperson remains a form of self-planning.
By the way, independent, transparently self-funded architects are not more expensive!
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
I think it’s quite okay overall. A few minor points: the bathroom door should be reversed. The toilet and closet should swap places. In the children’s bathroom, the toilet should be moved to the opposite side, and the door shifted and reversed to the other wall. Unfortunately, this is not possible on the lower floor, but I would still avoid having the door swing outward.
The children’s room next to the bedroom should swap with the fitness room. The walk-in closet should be narrowed by 20cm (8 inches) to benefit the bedroom, and the window should be downsized to the same size as in the children’s bathroom.
The patio roof will make the kitchen dark. I still prefer glass.
A bit more depth would benefit the rooms on the upper floor. Sloping walls are a sign of a makeshift solution – shameful for about 240sqm (2,583 sq ft).
The children’s room next to the bedroom should swap with the fitness room. The walk-in closet should be narrowed by 20cm (8 inches) to benefit the bedroom, and the window should be downsized to the same size as in the children’s bathroom.
The patio roof will make the kitchen dark. I still prefer glass.
A bit more depth would benefit the rooms on the upper floor. Sloping walls are a sign of a makeshift solution – shameful for about 240sqm (2,583 sq ft).
11ant schrieb:
Just google "11ant Steinemantra" 🙂 and free yourself from the association "thick jacket keeps you warm"Could you please send me the direct link? I only find lots of mentions of the post but not the post itself.
It’s clear that thickness isn’t everything here; we’re not really fond of any of the ETICS (External Thermal Insulation Composite System) options.
K a t j a schrieb:
I think it’s quite okay. A few minor points: The bathroom door should be reversed. Swap the toilet and the closet positions. In the children's bathroom, move the toilet to the other side and shift + reverse the door to the opposite wall. Unfortunately, that’s not possible downstairs, but I still wouldn't have the door open outward. Swap the children's bedroom next to the master bedroom with the fitness room. Make the walk-in closet 20cm (8 inches) narrower to gain space for the bedroom, and reduce the window size to match that of the children's bathroom. The patio roof will make the kitchen dark. I still prefer glass. A bit more depth would benefit the rooms on the upper floor. Sloping walls are a sign of a compromise — quite disappointing for roughly 240sqm (2,583 sq ft). Thank you very much for your feedback! The actual size is just under 200sqm (2,153 sq ft), but of course, sloping walls are not ideal.
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