ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family detached house, urban villa style, approximately 2,600 sq ft, without a basement
Created on: 23 Apr 2022 11:06
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dkw8074
Hello,
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
Nemesis schrieb:
Okay, it’s your decision, but I see it completely differently. And I hadn’t even taken into account the very practical point raised by @ypg.
From my point of view, it changes from “no significant advantage” to “often an annoying or at least inconvenient situation” to have to walk through there. Especially since the path around it is even covered. It would be different if the room wasn’t a separate room, but then the unsightly steel door would be even more of a problem. A small cloakroom or storage room encourages people to use the floor inside. No matter how disciplined you are. And I’m not talking about children here, but about situations when you’re in a hurry. And suddenly the shoes or bag end up there.
As planned, it’s simply not practical. (The freezer at the end of the long, narrow pantry isn’t practical either… how wide is that supposed to be?)
11ant schrieb:
I find that difficult because the changes are, to put it mildly, "not very obvious," meaning if I'm shown the "new" floor plans as spot-the-difference images Well, the entire kitchen bay window is gone, for example. That definitely catches the eye, doesn’t it?
ypg schrieb:
I would swap the toilet and washbasin. ypg schrieb:
The door to the multipurpose room should be centered on the staircase. ypg schrieb:
The shower bathroom upstairs is poorly furnished too. It should be enlarged by about 2 meters (6.5 feet), for example moving the shower into the windowless corner. All of what YPG suggests, plus in the children’s bathroom, move the window all the way into the corner like in the utility room. That gives more space for a corner shower.
ypg schrieb:
But the room usage is mixed up in my opinion: the kitchen ends up dark, and the south-facing window goes to the sofa and chill-out area. I see that differently; I think the kitchen gets enough light and it is located right next to the terrace and the outdoor kitchen.
dkw8074 schrieb:
We decided this way because it’s very practical with small children for going to and from the car. I agree. I have no door and often have to enter my garage extension, so I have to open the main door each time. That’s annoying. An alternative would be a pedestrian door in the garage door or going around via the terrace. If someone changes the entire floor plan just to force such a passage, I would say "Get rid of the door." But for you, it fits perfectly!
Otherwise, I’m glad you took on my suggestions, and of course, I like your floor plan because of that 🙂
ypg schrieb:
I find it much more appealing now. Okay, the exterior isn’t really my style, and neither is the mushroom-shaped feature, but it doesn’t have to be to my taste.
Regarding the floor plan:
Finally, there is some light coming into the house! However, the room usage seems reversed to me: the kitchen ends up dark, while the sofa and lounge area get the south-facing window, which will only be used in winter. I’m also not a fan of the hidden and narrow pantry. That said, much has improved now.
The toilet on the ground floor is just outside the door. A width of 1.50 meters (5 feet) isn’t enough there. I would swap the toilet and the washbasin.
The shower bathroom on the upper floor is also poorly furnished. It should be extended by about two meters (6.5 feet), for example by moving the shower into the windowless corner and rotating the toilet so daylight can reach the washbasin area.
The door to the multipurpose room should be centered with the stairs; otherwise, the sightline toward the stairs feels awkward.
Regarding the door between the garage and wardrobe:
I promise you, the floor of that storage room will be covered in shoes. As a passageway, it is not practical for a household with children. Just yesterday, I heard again on Hausbauhelden that people tend to use the covered front entrance and main door rather than the ugly steel door. Without a door, the space can be better furnished and used.
Edit/P.S. I haven’t compared the current plan with the original on the monitor, as I still have a clear picture in mind of the design with the kitchen extension and the dark multipurpose room 😉 Thank you very much! I’m still not entirely happy with the bathrooms either, so thanks for the input regarding their layout. As for the airlock area leading to the garage, I do understand the concerns, but for us, the advantages outweigh them.
ypg schrieb:
It would be different if the room weren’t separate, but then the ugly steel door would be even more noticeable. A small cloakroom or storage room encourages people to use the floor space. No matter how disciplined you are. And I’m not talking about children here, but about situations when you’re in a hurry. Suddenly, shoes or a bag end up there.
As planned, it’s simply not practical. (The freezer at the end of the narrow pantry isn’t either… how wide is that supposed to be?) As I said, I understand the concerns, but for us the advantages outweigh them. In the worst case, it’s as you described and the passage won’t be very practical, but nothing else will be affected. I can always place a shelf in front of the door if needed, though I don’t expect that to happen.
The kitchen and pantry will be planned in detail later, and it’s not yet decided whether we need a freezer. The idea is to have a “hidden” access to the pantry within the kitchen cabinetry, mainly for storage and a small worktop area.
I don’t find it perfect, but it’s better than some other designs I’ve seen. What I would change:
1. The door in the master bathroom swings close to the toilet, which can cause bumps. However, this isn’t a quick fix.
2. Make the patio roof entirely out of glass with an under-roof retractable sunshade. This way, the kitchen won’t be so dark.
3. Access to the pantry should not be through the kitchen cabinets (which is unfortunately not entirely clear in the current plan).
1. The door in the master bathroom swings close to the toilet, which can cause bumps. However, this isn’t a quick fix.
2. Make the patio roof entirely out of glass with an under-roof retractable sunshade. This way, the kitchen won’t be so dark.
3. Access to the pantry should not be through the kitchen cabinets (which is unfortunately not entirely clear in the current plan).
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