ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, approximately 200 sqm without a basement – assessment
Created on: 14 Dec 2014 10:37
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Slammer0909
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
Sorry, it somehow keeps getting worse despite improvements.
The pantry is still only about 100 cm (40 inches) wide.
Guest/possible bedroom… 270 cm (106 inches) to fit a double bed—is that really serious?
Bicycles in the passageway. Take a look at my floor plan to see how four bikes can be properly stored and how much space they actually take up. There’s nothing more annoying than having bikes leaning against the wall, one in front of the other. If yours is the last one, you have to move all the bikes back and forth first.
The staircase in the main area looks too short.
The hallway on the ground floor has sloped ceilings placed rather arbitrarily, which makes it look quite chaotic… sorry. But I think you really need to get an architect involved.
The pantry is still only about 100 cm (40 inches) wide.
Guest/possible bedroom… 270 cm (106 inches) to fit a double bed—is that really serious?
Bicycles in the passageway. Take a look at my floor plan to see how four bikes can be properly stored and how much space they actually take up. There’s nothing more annoying than having bikes leaning against the wall, one in front of the other. If yours is the last one, you have to move all the bikes back and forth first.
The staircase in the main area looks too short.
The hallway on the ground floor has sloped ceilings placed rather arbitrarily, which makes it look quite chaotic… sorry. But I think you really need to get an architect involved.
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Slammer090920 Dec 2014 18:35I don’t know either. The usable living space has definitely increased quite a bit already.
You can easily extend the 270 to 3m (10 feet) by just moving the corner; that doesn’t cause any issues.
But I’m not sure how else it could be laid out. We would like to have access to the terrace from the living room, dining room, and kitchen. Almost the entire north side is gone because of the garage. What options does an architect have when they have to meet all our very fixed requirements?
I mean, none of the thousands of floor plans you see everywhere really fit. None of the show homes were passive. I don’t want any walkthrough rooms. I want a closed kitchen, but including a cooking island and a sliding door to the living room. I need a guest/work/later possibly a bedroom. I don’t want a tiny guest bathroom but a reasonably sized one with a 100x100cm (39x39 inch) shower. And so on.
Can anyone suggest something?
When an architect designs something for me, it will never fit 100%, and I’m afraid I’ll end up pushing the poor guy back in this direction at some point...
Having the front door on the west side (the weather side) probably isn’t the best idea either.
Your suggestion is certainly well thought out, but it just doesn’t really fit us or suit our needs. I need a large straight wall in the living room for my hi-fi system, including the wall unit and the floor-standing speakers with enough space around them. Ideally so that a projector screen can be set up in front.
In most floor plans, the TV is just placed where there’s room. For me, my system needs a wall at least 3 to 4 m (10 to 13 feet) wide (not the TV, but my equipment).
I’m not saying our wishes are simple...
You can easily extend the 270 to 3m (10 feet) by just moving the corner; that doesn’t cause any issues.
But I’m not sure how else it could be laid out. We would like to have access to the terrace from the living room, dining room, and kitchen. Almost the entire north side is gone because of the garage. What options does an architect have when they have to meet all our very fixed requirements?
I mean, none of the thousands of floor plans you see everywhere really fit. None of the show homes were passive. I don’t want any walkthrough rooms. I want a closed kitchen, but including a cooking island and a sliding door to the living room. I need a guest/work/later possibly a bedroom. I don’t want a tiny guest bathroom but a reasonably sized one with a 100x100cm (39x39 inch) shower. And so on.
Can anyone suggest something?
When an architect designs something for me, it will never fit 100%, and I’m afraid I’ll end up pushing the poor guy back in this direction at some point...
Having the front door on the west side (the weather side) probably isn’t the best idea either.
Your suggestion is certainly well thought out, but it just doesn’t really fit us or suit our needs. I need a large straight wall in the living room for my hi-fi system, including the wall unit and the floor-standing speakers with enough space around them. Ideally so that a projector screen can be set up in front.
In most floor plans, the TV is just placed where there’s room. For me, my system needs a wall at least 3 to 4 m (10 to 13 feet) wide (not the TV, but my equipment).
I’m not saying our wishes are simple...
One more try... still only one staircase, house slightly smaller than in your last version, as it is only 12 m deep (39 feet) instead of 12.50 m. The yellow lines in the floor plans indicate where, in the case of two residential units, a wall with an apartment door could be added. On the upper floor, the partition to the stairwell would then also need to be full height.
This way, storage/technical room/garage/party room would still be accessible to both parties.
Kitchen now in an L-shape with a work/breakfast island and large sliding door to the garden. For the work/breakfast island, there are now very comfortable chairs available. The living/dining area then has a 2 m (6.5 feet) wide access... the sliding doors are no longer drawn in. The pantry is accessible from the hallway. Here you can place storage shelves, possibly a freezer cabinet, and some space for vacuum cleaner/mop storage.
In the living/dining area there is an approximately 340 cm (11 feet) wide square bay window, which also has a large sliding door. This actually improves access to the terrace. A table sized 100 x 200 cm (39 x 79 inches) is indicated.
At the far east side is a seating area with the TV wall.
The guest and then bedroom are arranged so that a 400 cm (13 feet) wide wardrobe fits and there is a large double bed with enough space to walk around.
Staircase is a half-landing design; from the bedroom hallway side you could add drawer units for storage. From the technical room side, the area under the stairs is free as storage space.
Passage to the garage is from the central hallway, where there is also a cloakroom area, bike stand, space for lawn mower, etc.
Party room with its own bathroom and a small entrance foyer.
A pitched roof with a 48° slope over the main house does not look very good because it becomes very tall if you also want a knee wall of about 110 cm (43 inches).
This way, storage/technical room/garage/party room would still be accessible to both parties.
Kitchen now in an L-shape with a work/breakfast island and large sliding door to the garden. For the work/breakfast island, there are now very comfortable chairs available. The living/dining area then has a 2 m (6.5 feet) wide access... the sliding doors are no longer drawn in. The pantry is accessible from the hallway. Here you can place storage shelves, possibly a freezer cabinet, and some space for vacuum cleaner/mop storage.
In the living/dining area there is an approximately 340 cm (11 feet) wide square bay window, which also has a large sliding door. This actually improves access to the terrace. A table sized 100 x 200 cm (39 x 79 inches) is indicated.
At the far east side is a seating area with the TV wall.
The guest and then bedroom are arranged so that a 400 cm (13 feet) wide wardrobe fits and there is a large double bed with enough space to walk around.
Staircase is a half-landing design; from the bedroom hallway side you could add drawer units for storage. From the technical room side, the area under the stairs is free as storage space.
Passage to the garage is from the central hallway, where there is also a cloakroom area, bike stand, space for lawn mower, etc.
Party room with its own bathroom and a small entrance foyer.
A pitched roof with a 48° slope over the main house does not look very good because it becomes very tall if you also want a knee wall of about 110 cm (43 inches).
@kbt09: What for the rest of us should be something planned more efficiently and cost-effectively is, for Slammer, a must-have—the second staircase! The focus is not on living and everyday life but on play and fun. Guests, if possible, should not enter the main house.
That’s how I understood Slammer.
That’s how I understood Slammer.
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Slammer090921 Dec 2014 20:42Saying guests don’t fit inside the house isn’t quite accurate... I find that comment inappropriate.
There are some things that simply can’t be understood even after two or three explanations in a forum. That’s not a problem. I tried to explain it using the Club-Carrera slot car track as an example. If family life happens there, people can also use the second staircase to go upstairs. During parties (later only the teenagers), they have their own space there and can go downstairs to the bathroom without having to pass our bedroom while drunk.
I also have storage space under the stairs again, which I can fill with cabinets.
@kbt09: thank you very much. It’s late, I will review it carefully and provide feedback accordingly.
There are some things that simply can’t be understood even after two or three explanations in a forum. That’s not a problem. I tried to explain it using the Club-Carrera slot car track as an example. If family life happens there, people can also use the second staircase to go upstairs. During parties (later only the teenagers), they have their own space there and can go downstairs to the bathroom without having to pass our bedroom while drunk.
I also have storage space under the stairs again, which I can fill with cabinets.
@kbt09: thank you very much. It’s late, I will review it carefully and provide feedback accordingly.
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