ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, approximately 200 sqm without a basement – assessment
Created on: 14 Dec 2014 10:37
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Slammer0909
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
Slammer0909 schrieb:
I once read that it’s not ideal if the bathroom is located directly next to the living room?
I also saw that mentioned here in the forum.The wastewater pipes from upstairs shouldn’t run directly through living areas, that’s correct.
And having a wastewater pipe in the wall where you sleep can also be disturbing.
Here, everything fits quite well. The pipes can be routed along the exterior wall between two wet rooms... on the east side, the (second) outdoor faucet is also conveniently located there.
Slammer0909 schrieb:
But I have to build a single-story house. This condition is only met if the upper floor is a maximum of two-thirds the size of the lower floor (living area, not usable area).An architect would likely convert your party room into usable space... Roughly calculated, with a 45-degree roof pitch and a 1 meter (3 ft) knee wall, you wouldn’t need a bay window at all... but that’s a small calculation for the architect and could potentially save you cost if necessary (bay window).
Slammer0909 schrieb:
Back then, I always wanted to be able to access every room (including the kitchen) directly from the hallway, without having to go through the living room.What added benefit would that bring you? With this design, without any drawbacks, it’s not feasible. However, I would move the kitchen/dining room passage forward and change the layout. But these are minor adjustments – the framework needs to be up first.
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Slammer09093 Feb 2015 23:16The party room will officially be classified as a usable space anyway. Still, I can’t manage with a 45-degree angle. That leaves the upper area too large. It needs to be 30 degrees. I asked the architect again if 35 degrees would still be acceptable. The problem then is the attic space being too big, which would then be counted as an additional floor.
One more question about the new staircase in the garage. You created a door under the stairs leading to the restroom. Is that allowed since it’s just a garage and a small restroom, or would this setup also be acceptable inside the house? I always wonder how it looks when there is a door above the stairs. I had that in a design once before.
One more question about the new staircase in the garage. You created a door under the stairs leading to the restroom. Is that allowed since it’s just a garage and a small restroom, or would this setup also be acceptable inside the house? I always wonder how it looks when there is a door above the stairs. I had that in a design once before.
Slammer0909 schrieb:
One more question about the new staircase in the garage. You installed a door to the WC underneath the stairs. Is that allowed since it’s just a garage and a small WC, or would this arrangement also be okay inside the house? I’m always wondering how it looks when there’s a door right above the stairs. I’ve actually included something like that in a design before. Basically, you can do it however you want. Personally, I’m not a fan of doors under stairs. I wouldn’t plan that in a living area. But for a storage room with a guest WC, I don’t see it as a big issue. At worst, you might need to widen that second entrance so the stairs end next to the door. However, I think that wastes space.
Slammer0909 schrieb:
Placing the bathroom between the utility room and the living room actually makes sense in terms of space.
I once read that it’s not ideal to have the bathroom directly next to the living room?
I also saw that mentioned here in the forum.
What do you think? Is that generally a problem, or does it not really matter? The shower/toilet flushing isn’t that loud anyway, right?You also have to consider how often someone is actually alone in the living room wanting complete quiet while someone else is bathing or showering.
Personally, I would be much more bothered if the bathroom was right next to the bedroom (possibly even en-suite), because my husband often has to leave early for work, and the bathroom noises would annoy me a lot (and they already do now, even though the bathroom is about 6-7m (20-23 feet) away. Then again, I’m very sensitive to noise :-() .
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Slammer09094 Feb 2015 08:29All right, thanks for your perspective on the staircase issue.
How often the bathroom being next to the living room is a problem is indeed the question. However, some things have already been heavily criticized here that, in my opinion, were much less of a disturbance.
But overall, you don’t have any concerns or objections about that—that was the feedback I wanted to get.
How often the bathroom being next to the living room is a problem is indeed the question. However, some things have already been heavily criticized here that, in my opinion, were much less of a disturbance.
But overall, you don’t have any concerns or objections about that—that was the feedback I wanted to get.
So, here’s another attempt... First, an overview of the figures:
I counted the party room as part of the garage area. The roof is now at 30°, which mostly affects the south side.
From your last comments, I sensed you’re a bit reluctant because you’d actually prefer a really large living room.
I can offer 56 sqm (600 sq ft) there. Of course, this comes at the expense of some other features. I’ve also put the complete separation of ground floor and upper floor aside for now. I’ll list various details along with some explanations.
I counted the party room as part of the garage area. The roof is now at 30°, which mostly affects the south side.
From your last comments, I sensed you’re a bit reluctant because you’d actually prefer a really large living room.
I can offer 56 sqm (600 sq ft) there. Of course, this comes at the expense of some other features. I’ve also put the complete separation of ground floor and upper floor aside for now. I’ll list various details along with some explanations.
- The house is now only 9.3 m (30 ft) deep by default... this might even allow for moving 1 meter (3 ft) away from the wooden fence to create a nice planting area there. Only the bay window extends another 2 m (6.5 ft) towards the west, but it still remains under 12 m (39 ft).
- West bay window... with a balcony on the upper floor accessible from all rooms, which also lets some light into the staircase. I can even imagine skipping the party room balcony (and thus its special roof sealing). It’s easy to get from the party room directly onto the balcony anyway, e.g., for a smoking guest.
- Warning, a drawback... only one staircase, which reduces the space needed for a garage extension.
- Pantry integrated into the utility/cloakroom. Usually, that’s where supplies are stored anyway, and I think it’s reasonable to have to walk about 3 m (10 ft) from the kitchen.
- No toilet in either the garage or the party room. The stairs lead down right next to the guest bathroom. It might be possible to install a toilet in the party room.
- Living room now huge, with two small windows facing east, but the main seating position on the couch is not bothered by the east view. There’s also a nice reading corner and a centrally located fireplace. Large south/west facing windows.
- Kitchen with an island that includes seating... only 2 to 3 seats on a bench that you can slide into from both sides.
- I wouldn’t install any doors between the kitchen and dining area, since you can’t see the kitchen from the living room anyway.
- Large utility room upstairs without sloped ceilings. I can even imagine storage space there for general items like bed linens and towels. Directly opposite is the access to the balcony with south and west sun exposure.
- Private rooms on the upper floor separated by a door.
- Large children’s rooms, both facing south with one large skylight each. In one of the children’s rooms, the fireplace looks a bit odd, but due to the room size, I think this can be worked around and the room can still be furnished and used well.
- The entrance hall on the ground floor doesn’t get any smaller, but it now combines all the traffic areas and also offers storage space. Lighting comes through glass doors to the living room/kitchen and the west-facing main entrance door.
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