ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, approximately 200 sqm without a basement – assessment
Created on: 14 Dec 2014 10:37
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Slammer0909
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
I have been following this forum for some time now, looking at other threads as well as their floor plans and feedback.
My wife and I are already in contact with a construction company, and the floor plan is roughly finalized. I also contributed to the design of the ground floor.
However, I am not satisfied with the layout of the upper floor because you have to walk through the dressing area to reach the bedroom.
I have been planning and moving walls around for about a year now, and I am starting to get somewhat "blind" to the design.
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback, both positive and negative, on the floor plan.
The rooms are quite large, but we prefer it that way (child’s room about 20sqm (215 sq ft), etc.).
Originally, we wanted a full basement, but due to the groundwater level, this is no longer possible.
That is why the rooms are arranged around the garage, with a large utility room including a cloakroom on the ground floor, and a laundry room on the upper floor.
The site plan including the property boundary is provided just to help visualize the dimensions of the plot.
Attached are the floor plans.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Mathias
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Slammer09093 Feb 2015 15:53Oh, and just to clarify:
If anything, I would prefer the small toilet to be located downstairs in the garage, not upstairs in the party room. Simply because it might be used more frequently there, for example coming from the garden or so.
I would also like to be able to access the garden directly from the garage. But of course, that would just require one door.
I have also considered not fully separating the garage from the storage area with a wall, but rather using shelving as the divider. The advantage is that there wouldn’t be a solid wall right away, so the garage could be extended if needed.
Of course, I could also set up a workbench in front of the cars and just move the car out when I need to work on something. But I find the other option more appealing.
Bicycles should definitely have a place to be stored somewhere, and the lawn mower could go into a garden shed, which could be built if necessary.
If anything, I would prefer the small toilet to be located downstairs in the garage, not upstairs in the party room. Simply because it might be used more frequently there, for example coming from the garden or so.
I would also like to be able to access the garden directly from the garage. But of course, that would just require one door.
I have also considered not fully separating the garage from the storage area with a wall, but rather using shelving as the divider. The advantage is that there wouldn’t be a solid wall right away, so the garage could be extended if needed.
Of course, I could also set up a workbench in front of the cars and just move the car out when I need to work on something. But I find the other option more appealing.
Bicycles should definitely have a place to be stored somewhere, and the lawn mower could go into a garden shed, which could be built if necessary.
kaho674 schrieb:
Why, do I need a permit?No, you don’t need a permit to create valuable posts for the thread/OP!
@Slammer0909, you’re starting by cutting costs in the wrong place:
Slammer0909 schrieb:
What if I remove the painting and wallpapering from the €290,000 (about $310,000) turnkey house costs?Which builder (except Danwood) delivers a turnkey house including painting and wallpapering? So: are you sure those trades are actually included?
Hire an architect— with their help, you can design an optimal house size, and their fee will quickly pay off.
Slammer0909 schrieb:
If there is a large window,Why would you want a large window there if you don’t want one?! You are creating a limitation for yourself in a design that could offer many possibilities.
Starting with painting and wallpapering as a cost-saving measure is the wrong approach. There is probably little potential for savings there. You can consider doing some work yourself only once you have the complete cost plan. Although in your last list, some of the figures might have too many zeros – or is that just me?
Cutting 1 meter (3 feet) off can also have significant effects; you’re referring to post 52, right?
Ground floor
Upper floor:
By the way, a question... Is the roof orientation as shown in the developer’s plan from post 52?
In case the rooms are separated, where would the kitchen on the upper floor be located?
Cutting 1 meter (3 feet) off can also have significant effects; you’re referring to post 52, right?
Ground floor
Upper floor:
By the way, a question... Is the roof orientation as shown in the developer’s plan from post 52?
In case the rooms are separated, where would the kitchen on the upper floor be located?
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Slammer09093 Feb 2015 16:44ypg schrieb:
Why put a large window there if you don’t want one?! You’re creating a hurdle for yourself with a design that has many possibilities.That’s true, I could simply choose not to have a window facing outside in the living room, just like on the current east side. You’re right about that. But how would that look from the street if there were no windows along 5-7 meters (16-23 feet)? That would look strange, wouldn’t it?
Yes, even one meter (3 feet) makes a difference, I understand that. But I also think it’s not the main source of savings. Because even with 10,000, it doesn’t really make a difference on one side. On the other hand, those 10,000 can save another 5,000 and then another 5,000 elsewhere, and then you get a bigger overall saving.
In my opinion, a kitchen on the upper floor is not necessary. Of course, you might say that only then does the separation make sense. But I’m currently experiencing the opposite at my father-in-law’s place. The kitchen is shared downstairs, and upstairs the children (my son and his partner) have their bedrooms and bathroom. If a kitchen is needed upstairs at some point, it could be placed in the lower child’s room—right where the water lines are nearby. Surely, this could be planned more precisely and the necessary plumbing installed in advance. But I can decide that when the floor plan is finalized. Now you might say: “This definitely has to be included in the planning.” Yes, that’s true, but the current scenario is that it might be separated later, but only one kitchen will be used. It’s not intended to be rented out to others. Of course, all of this could be considered in advance, but it’s not the case for now.
Slammer0909 schrieb:
In my opinion, a kitchen on the upper floor is not necessary ...I think @kbt09 is referring to the straight walls for the kitchen unit and such.
They simply aren’t long enough to accommodate a kitchen.
Not just that, but also for some preliminary planning.
However, earlier in this thread, there was a different approach when rental to external parties was discussed. This was mainly an argument because I also asked why this cloakroom/storage room was necessary, and I had considered making it accessible to both parties, rearranging it, and so on. At that point, you, Slammer, pointed out that it would only be for the lower unit. So, it had to be positioned in a way that, in case of division, it would be accessible only from the lower floor. But the kitchen would then be shared. Sorry. And the party room can’t be accessed via a staircase...
So... the bottom line is that the floor plan doesn’t necessarily have to be explicitly designed for a REAL division between the ground floor and upper floor.
I recommend that you carefully reread this long thread from start to finish over the weekend and reconsider the various arguments.
However, earlier in this thread, there was a different approach when rental to external parties was discussed. This was mainly an argument because I also asked why this cloakroom/storage room was necessary, and I had considered making it accessible to both parties, rearranging it, and so on. At that point, you, Slammer, pointed out that it would only be for the lower unit. So, it had to be positioned in a way that, in case of division, it would be accessible only from the lower floor. But the kitchen would then be shared. Sorry. And the party room can’t be accessed via a staircase...
So... the bottom line is that the floor plan doesn’t necessarily have to be explicitly designed for a REAL division between the ground floor and upper floor.
I recommend that you carefully reread this long thread from start to finish over the weekend and reconsider the various arguments.
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