Hello everyone,
we are currently working on our floor plan and are starting to get a bit frustrated.
We have now had an optimal floor plan created for us.
We are very satisfied with everything except that the child II room feels too narrow.
The depth in the entrance area (child II) is about 2.5 m (8 feet 2 inches). The depth in the lower section is about 2.37 m (7 feet 9 inches). For comparison: child I is approximately 3.58 m by 5.0 m (11 feet 9 inches by 16 feet 5 inches).
According to our draftsman, this is due to the fact that, according to the current DIN standard, stairs must have a minimum tread depth of 260 mm (10 inches). This makes the staircase significantly longer than in the floor plans we previously reviewed.
Maybe someone here has a good idea on how to still improve this situation.
We appreciate any suggestions.

we are currently working on our floor plan and are starting to get a bit frustrated.
We have now had an optimal floor plan created for us.
We are very satisfied with everything except that the child II room feels too narrow.
The depth in the entrance area (child II) is about 2.5 m (8 feet 2 inches). The depth in the lower section is about 2.37 m (7 feet 9 inches). For comparison: child I is approximately 3.58 m by 5.0 m (11 feet 9 inches by 16 feet 5 inches).
According to our draftsman, this is due to the fact that, according to the current DIN standard, stairs must have a minimum tread depth of 260 mm (10 inches). This makes the staircase significantly longer than in the floor plans we previously reviewed.
Maybe someone here has a good idea on how to still improve this situation.
We appreciate any suggestions.
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Peppoderwilde4 Feb 2023 06:57Thank you very much for the numerous responses.
The floor plan was developed as follows. From the beginning, we wanted to build a classic urban villa. To get a sense of space, we visited several model homes at the Kaarst show village (Viebrockhaus). We didn’t like the urban villa displayed there. Although we didn’t like the design of the other houses, we still looked at all of them. During this, the V480 Edition II caught our eye. The final floor plan is based on this layout. We especially liked the open living area.
I think we got a bit carried away and tried to implement this at all costs without realizing it would end in a disaster. You have opened our eyes here.
So, back to the roots...
Here is also the list that was missing in the first post.
Zoning Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 600 sqm (6460 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor space index: 0.6
Plot ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: hipped roof
Architectural style: none
Orientation:
Maximum height/limits
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: urban villa
Basement, number of floors: no
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults / 2 toddlers
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office? not strictly necessary
Guest bedrooms per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: desired
Number of dining seats: 1
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: draftsman
- Planner from a construction company: yes
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?: open living/dining area, the children’s rooms appeal to us
What don’t you like? Why? We are not yet satisfied with the kitchen. In our opinion, the bathroom is not yet harmonious.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology:
If you have to do without, which details/extensions
- you can do without:
- you cannot do without: large children’s rooms
Why is the design as it is now? e.g.
Standard design from planner? Custom design
Which wishes were implemented by the architect/planner? We would like a freestanding refrigerator. This was considered in the floor plan but, in our opinion, is still not quite right.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
We have completely discarded the last floor plan and returned to the original design. The following plan has been developed as a result.


The floor plan was developed as follows. From the beginning, we wanted to build a classic urban villa. To get a sense of space, we visited several model homes at the Kaarst show village (Viebrockhaus). We didn’t like the urban villa displayed there. Although we didn’t like the design of the other houses, we still looked at all of them. During this, the V480 Edition II caught our eye. The final floor plan is based on this layout. We especially liked the open living area.
I think we got a bit carried away and tried to implement this at all costs without realizing it would end in a disaster. You have opened our eyes here.
So, back to the roots...
Here is also the list that was missing in the first post.
Zoning Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 600 sqm (6460 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor space index: 0.6
Plot ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: hipped roof
Architectural style: none
Orientation:
Maximum height/limits
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: urban villa
Basement, number of floors: no
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults / 2 toddlers
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office? not strictly necessary
Guest bedrooms per year: 2-3
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: desired
Number of dining seats: 1
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: draftsman
- Planner from a construction company: yes
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?: open living/dining area, the children’s rooms appeal to us
What don’t you like? Why? We are not yet satisfied with the kitchen. In our opinion, the bathroom is not yet harmonious.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology:
If you have to do without, which details/extensions
- you can do without:
- you cannot do without: large children’s rooms
Why is the design as it is now? e.g.
Standard design from planner? Custom design
Which wishes were implemented by the architect/planner? We would like a freestanding refrigerator. This was considered in the floor plan but, in our opinion, is still not quite right.
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
We have completely discarded the last floor plan and returned to the original design. The following plan has been developed as a result.
P
Peppoderwilde4 Feb 2023 08:28I placed the floor plan onto our plot (corner lot). I think I had the north arrow wrong on the first floor plan :p Now it’s correct. We would definitely prefer a straight staircase. Which staircase design do you think would fit better here? The kitchen could still be redesigned a bit. We don’t have any ideas for that yet. 🙄

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Peppoderwilde4 Feb 2023 09:23At the front area of the building plot, approximately 16.5 m (54 feet) wide, and at the rear area of the building plot, approximately 17.0 m (56 feet) wide.
I don’t find this design wrong in terms of the dimensions. You could open up the kitchen more – but the added value wouldn’t be dramatic.

The double garage takes up a lot of your valuable building space. How important is it? Are there alternatives, such as a compact carport closer to the street? Is there a minimum setback from the street required?
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