ᐅ Floor plan single-family house approx. 158 sqm with children's bedroom in the attic
Created on: 6 Sep 2024 19:57
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AbartigHello everyone,
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 713 sqm (7670 sq ft)
Slope: almost flat within the building zone
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 2 (number of full floors as the maximum)
Building zone, building line and boundary: see images
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 (number of full floors as the maximum)
Roof shape: SD & WD 22°–38° / staggered PD 15°–19°
Architectural style: modern, I would say
Orientation: main ridge direction east-west
Maximum heights/limits: FH 745.3 , TH 742.15
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: We are open, so far we like the idea with a children’s room in the attic.
Basement, floors: 2 full floors, basement not included in the budget.
Number of people, ages: 4 persons, 34, 31, 3, 1
Space needs on ground floor: We would like a playroom (guest room) on the ground floor. First floor: child 1’s room would be an office (see images), 2 children’s bedrooms, 1 master bedroom
Office: family use or home office? Home office on the first floor
Number of guests per year: about 1
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with kitchen island
Number of dining seats: one indoors
Fireplace: no, KfW 300
Balcony, roof terrace: –
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planner: architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Living/dining room faces south, kitchen with island
What don’t you like? Why? Utility room width of 1.73 m (5 ft 8 in) seems a bit narrow, hallway 1 m (3 ft 3 in) I am not quite sure about, no covered connection from garage to house
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 600,000
Personal price limit for the house including fixtures: 600,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump (KfW 300)
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
— can you do without: second bathroom on the first floor
— can you not do without: 2 children’s bedrooms and 1 office, double garage
Why is the design like it is now? For example,
Recommendation from the architect, there is only one direct neighbor to the east (privacy). That’s why the garage was placed on the east side and an inner courtyard is created.
What do you think?
The 1.73 m (5 ft 8 in) width of the utility room bothers me. Do you think everything will fit there?
According to DIN 18012, the room width should be at least 1.80 m (6 ft), or am I mistaken?
As a precaution, we have also planned the washing machine on the upper floor.
Is a 1 m (3 ft 3 in) wide hallway sufficient? Are there any specific requirements for hallway width for KfW 300 standards?
Unfortunately, the preliminary design lacks dimensions. I have added them afterwards.
Thank you very much for your support.
Best regards
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 713 sqm (7670 sq ft)
Slope: almost flat within the building zone
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 2 (number of full floors as the maximum)
Building zone, building line and boundary: see images
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 (number of full floors as the maximum)
Roof shape: SD & WD 22°–38° / staggered PD 15°–19°
Architectural style: modern, I would say
Orientation: main ridge direction east-west
Maximum heights/limits: FH 745.3 , TH 742.15
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: We are open, so far we like the idea with a children’s room in the attic.
Basement, floors: 2 full floors, basement not included in the budget.
Number of people, ages: 4 persons, 34, 31, 3, 1
Space needs on ground floor: We would like a playroom (guest room) on the ground floor. First floor: child 1’s room would be an office (see images), 2 children’s bedrooms, 1 master bedroom
Office: family use or home office? Home office on the first floor
Number of guests per year: about 1
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with kitchen island
Number of dining seats: one indoors
Fireplace: no, KfW 300
Balcony, roof terrace: –
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planner: architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Living/dining room faces south, kitchen with island
What don’t you like? Why? Utility room width of 1.73 m (5 ft 8 in) seems a bit narrow, hallway 1 m (3 ft 3 in) I am not quite sure about, no covered connection from garage to house
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 600,000
Personal price limit for the house including fixtures: 600,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump (KfW 300)
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
— can you do without: second bathroom on the first floor
— can you not do without: 2 children’s bedrooms and 1 office, double garage
Why is the design like it is now? For example,
Recommendation from the architect, there is only one direct neighbor to the east (privacy). That’s why the garage was placed on the east side and an inner courtyard is created.
What do you think?
The 1.73 m (5 ft 8 in) width of the utility room bothers me. Do you think everything will fit there?
According to DIN 18012, the room width should be at least 1.80 m (6 ft), or am I mistaken?
As a precaution, we have also planned the washing machine on the upper floor.
Is a 1 m (3 ft 3 in) wide hallway sufficient? Are there any specific requirements for hallway width for KfW 300 standards?
Unfortunately, the preliminary design lacks dimensions. I have added them afterwards.
Thank you very much for your support.
Best regards
Hello,
I’m skeptical about the plan from the start. I’m not convinced!
Here, however, a closed staircase is planned. So the corridor feels narrower. It becomes even tighter when doors and drawers open into that meter-wide space. I admit I’m not a fan of the clutter under the stairs, but here it’s a problem: two negatives combined — narrow corridor plus cupboards.
So, why am I skeptical? I don’t know exactly what it is: the recessed entrance area, the corridor as a channel, what I consider a lack of proper cloakroom (a cupboard under the stairs is storage, but not a coat closet),
the kitchen with a bottleneck entrance and no turning space. That’s the ground floor.
The upper floor isn’t my taste at all. Just over 8 sqm (86 sq ft) for a child’s room. Who makes the beds for the kids? Who sits at the sickbed? Who brings water, snacks, and tissues to the whining child? In other words, who wants to risk hurting themselves sooner or later — in the next 10 to 12 years — just because there’s no space for a bed in the children’s room? I think that’s a bad idea. That might be a small cozy hideout, but not a main bed.
I’m also not a fan of toilets that are more than a meter (3 ft 3 in) away from the shower — I’ve experienced too many cases where stomach or intestinal issues mean you really need them close together.
I’m skeptical about the plan from the start. I’m not convinced!
Abartig schrieb:Why would that be necessary?
There is no covered connection from the garage to the house.
Abartig schrieb:I think that’s fine. I could live with it: no unnecessary free space in the middle.
The 1.73 m (5 ft 8 in) ceiling height in the utility room bothers me. Do you think we can fit everything in there?
Abartig schrieb:For a technical room (HAR) in a multi-family building?
According to DIN 18012, the minimum room width should be 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in), or am I mistaken?
Abartig schrieb:Why would there be?
Are there specific requirements for corridor width in KfW 300 standard?
Abartig schrieb:Which doesn’t add any value to the bathroom, rather the opposite.
As a precaution, we have also planned the washing machine on the upper floor.
Abartig schrieb:Normally, you can manage with that. Open parallel staircases usually create a more spacious feeling.
Is a 1 m (3 ft 3 in) wide corridor sufficient?
Here, however, a closed staircase is planned. So the corridor feels narrower. It becomes even tighter when doors and drawers open into that meter-wide space. I admit I’m not a fan of the clutter under the stairs, but here it’s a problem: two negatives combined — narrow corridor plus cupboards.
So, why am I skeptical? I don’t know exactly what it is: the recessed entrance area, the corridor as a channel, what I consider a lack of proper cloakroom (a cupboard under the stairs is storage, but not a coat closet),
the kitchen with a bottleneck entrance and no turning space. That’s the ground floor.
The upper floor isn’t my taste at all. Just over 8 sqm (86 sq ft) for a child’s room. Who makes the beds for the kids? Who sits at the sickbed? Who brings water, snacks, and tissues to the whining child? In other words, who wants to risk hurting themselves sooner or later — in the next 10 to 12 years — just because there’s no space for a bed in the children’s room? I think that’s a bad idea. That might be a small cozy hideout, but not a main bed.
I’m also not a fan of toilets that are more than a meter (3 ft 3 in) away from the shower — I’ve experienced too many cases where stomach or intestinal issues mean you really need them close together.
I agree. These children’s rooms with beds accessed by a ladder are completely impractical—expensive and poorly usable. On top of that, the children’s rooms are very small. I would skip the walk-in closet and allocate the square meters better to the children.
The long entrance hallway feels uninviting, narrow, and bleak. The living room, at 3.63 m (12 feet) deep, already feels very elongated. It seems the designer favors long, narrow rooms, which is far from appealing.
Isn’t the garage located on the west side, or is the sketch not oriented to the north? In this case, the courtyard is simply pointless. It’s not really inside but stuck on the edge, creating an awkward dead corner instead of a cohesive plan. What’s the point of sealing such a large area? I would rather invest that money in increasing the house size. The house, garage, and “courtyard” are laid out so wastefully that there is hardly any space left for a larger garden.
I also don’t understand why the garage isn’t planned as part of the perimeter development. But sealing everything around again—that’s nonsense. For me, this design would fail and end up in the reject pile.
The long entrance hallway feels uninviting, narrow, and bleak. The living room, at 3.63 m (12 feet) deep, already feels very elongated. It seems the designer favors long, narrow rooms, which is far from appealing.
Isn’t the garage located on the west side, or is the sketch not oriented to the north? In this case, the courtyard is simply pointless. It’s not really inside but stuck on the edge, creating an awkward dead corner instead of a cohesive plan. What’s the point of sealing such a large area? I would rather invest that money in increasing the house size. The house, garage, and “courtyard” are laid out so wastefully that there is hardly any space left for a larger garden.
I also don’t understand why the garage isn’t planned as part of the perimeter development. But sealing everything around again—that’s nonsense. For me, this design would fail and end up in the reject pile.
2.74 meters (9 feet) in the bedroom means there is just under 50 cm (20 inches) of clearance to walk through. The house can be shortened by about one meter (3 feet) by removing the office entrance, designing the shower as a standard size, and reducing the kitchen countertop depth by one meter (3 feet) from the over 3 meters (10 feet) planned horizontally. Upstairs, the same applies if you remove the separate toilet. This allows you to add one more meter (3 feet) in depth and creates more space overall.
I actually like the courtyard for a kitchen terrace, but I would rather place the garage on the property line and possibly rotate the house.
I actually like the courtyard for a kitchen terrace, but I would rather place the garage on the property line and possibly rotate the house.
Abartig schrieb:
I am bothered by the 1.73 m (5 ft 8 in) height in the utility room. Do you think we can fit everything in there? [...]
Unfortunately, the preliminary draft lacks dimensions. I have added them later. What are a few centimeters doing in a preliminary draft?
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