ᐅ Floor plan for a single-family house of approximately 1,500 sq ft – Staircase that can be separated or enclosed
Created on: 21 Apr 2015 14:30
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derelvis
Important details:
Development plan / restrictions:
Plot size: 5.2 ares (25 x 21m / 82 x 69 ft)
Orientation:
Slope: slight south-facing slope, 1m (3 ft) drop over 25m (82 ft)
Building window, building line and boundary: 2.5m (8 ft)
Edge development: garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5 stories
Roof type: gable roof
Client requirements:
Basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 + child (2 years)
Space requirement: approx. 135–140sqm (1450–1500 sq ft)
Office: family use
Conservative construction method
Open kitchen: possibly (only an L-shape) or with sliding door
Number of dining seats: standard 4, otherwise up to 12
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: minimum length 3.5m (11.5 ft)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage or garage + carport
Hello everyone,
Attached you’ll find our planned house. It is an architect’s design revised multiple times. We are very satisfied with the design, but of course, sometimes things get overlooked.
If anyone has suggestions or criticism, please don’t hold back.
One obvious criticism might be the staircase at the “end of the house,” but this is important to us because we want a separable staircase to isolate the entrance noise from the living room. We prefer not to have a single-family home with an integrated open staircase.
If anyone can sketch a better solution, we would of course appreciate it.
- Driveway only possible on the south side
- Pantry close to the kitchen
- Separable living units
- Ground floor fully livable for elderly (currently the marked bedroom is an office)
- Basement
- Approx. 135–140sqm (1450–1500 sq ft)
- Knee wall height 1.2m (4 ft)
Development plan / restrictions:
Plot size: 5.2 ares (25 x 21m / 82 x 69 ft)
Orientation:
Slope: slight south-facing slope, 1m (3 ft) drop over 25m (82 ft)
Building window, building line and boundary: 2.5m (8 ft)
Edge development: garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5 stories
Roof type: gable roof
Client requirements:
Basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 + child (2 years)
Space requirement: approx. 135–140sqm (1450–1500 sq ft)
Office: family use
Conservative construction method
Open kitchen: possibly (only an L-shape) or with sliding door
Number of dining seats: standard 4, otherwise up to 12
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: minimum length 3.5m (11.5 ft)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage or garage + carport
Hello everyone,
Attached you’ll find our planned house. It is an architect’s design revised multiple times. We are very satisfied with the design, but of course, sometimes things get overlooked.
If anyone has suggestions or criticism, please don’t hold back.
One obvious criticism might be the staircase at the “end of the house,” but this is important to us because we want a separable staircase to isolate the entrance noise from the living room. We prefer not to have a single-family home with an integrated open staircase.
If anyone can sketch a better solution, we would of course appreciate it.
This is not the first draft. It is also not primarily designed with the idea that we want to move entirely to the ground floor, but we want to keep that option open.
Basically, the house’s floor plan is fixed. The L-shaped living/dining room and kitchen are fixed because we want this layout. After that, we need to step back because a minimum of 12.5m (41 feet) is required on the south side for a parking space, garage, and passage.
I shared this here to get opinions from many viewpoints. I realized the value of this approach with the fireplace topic as well and will/must come up with something regarding that.
Staircase topic:
This can be easily separated by extending the stairwell (masonry) and connecting it downward to the kitchen corner.
The biggest discussion here in the forum seems to be about the bedroom on the ground floor: (which is no longer relevant for us)
The minimum size for a bedroom with a double bed is currently 11-12m² (118-129 ft²), which is exactly the size we have. When visiting such a room, we found it comfortable. For us, it’s not too small as a bedroom.
Right now, it is planned as an additional room/office that we definitely wanted anyway. If someone can sketch a better solution with the same living space on the ground floor, I’m open to it.
Basement topic:
The main reason: We want as large a garden as possible and at least 2 additional rooms of 15m²+ (161 ft²+) for a workshop, hobbies, and storage.
Additionally, a utility room and a cellar are needed, and the technical equipment should be accommodated somewhere as well (buffer storage tank).
In theory, you could expand the ground floor and upper floor by 20m² (215 ft²) each to have the same space, but that would be, 1. more expensive and 2. reduce garden space.
@Muskeltier :
The kitchen connections/piping will come into the south-facing children’s room. The two children’s rooms will be connected by a doorway and have a balcony on the west side facing the living room/kitchen.
The staircase opens in this direction because both now and in the future, there should be a small cloakroom on the left.
@Jochen104 :
That’s a matter of opinion. I don’t like the “modern” detached houses. We have looked at over 100 houses and prefer this style.
@Manu1976 :
I will have to take care of the fireplace topic, but we want it as a "room divider."
Adding an extra toilet to the upstairs bathroom is also an option. I definitely want a separate toilet.
By the way, I have lived 25 years without a toilet in the bathroom and 10 years with one. I definitely don’t need it.
@marv45 :
Everyone basically wants approval first.
A pantry next to the kitchen would be an idea, but it’s not possible. We’ve thought about it a lot.
“Modern” detached houses often solve this with a 1-2m² (11-22 ft²) pantry. That’s not an option for us.
PS: Frequently used items (like pasta) will be kept in an apothecary cabinet.
The pantry is rather for items bought in bulk or used rarely.
@EveundGerd :
The fireplace will be connected to the heating circuit; otherwise, it would overheat the room entirely.
What compromises do you mean? It’s about weighing priorities and budget.
For us, the basement, garden space, location of the living/dining room + kitchen, and a separable stairwell are priorities.
That’s why this draft was created. Surely, the living room could be reduced from 4m to 3.5m (13 feet to 11.5 feet) in width to add a 15m² (161 ft²) bedroom on the ground floor. But that would bother us for the next 30+ years.
@ypg :
I don’t understand the limitation. For me, no room is limited except that the pantry is not directly next to the kitchen.
Basically, the house’s floor plan is fixed. The L-shaped living/dining room and kitchen are fixed because we want this layout. After that, we need to step back because a minimum of 12.5m (41 feet) is required on the south side for a parking space, garage, and passage.
I shared this here to get opinions from many viewpoints. I realized the value of this approach with the fireplace topic as well and will/must come up with something regarding that.
Staircase topic:
This can be easily separated by extending the stairwell (masonry) and connecting it downward to the kitchen corner.
The biggest discussion here in the forum seems to be about the bedroom on the ground floor: (which is no longer relevant for us)
The minimum size for a bedroom with a double bed is currently 11-12m² (118-129 ft²), which is exactly the size we have. When visiting such a room, we found it comfortable. For us, it’s not too small as a bedroom.
Right now, it is planned as an additional room/office that we definitely wanted anyway. If someone can sketch a better solution with the same living space on the ground floor, I’m open to it.
Basement topic:
The main reason: We want as large a garden as possible and at least 2 additional rooms of 15m²+ (161 ft²+) for a workshop, hobbies, and storage.
Additionally, a utility room and a cellar are needed, and the technical equipment should be accommodated somewhere as well (buffer storage tank).
In theory, you could expand the ground floor and upper floor by 20m² (215 ft²) each to have the same space, but that would be, 1. more expensive and 2. reduce garden space.
@Muskeltier :
The kitchen connections/piping will come into the south-facing children’s room. The two children’s rooms will be connected by a doorway and have a balcony on the west side facing the living room/kitchen.
The staircase opens in this direction because both now and in the future, there should be a small cloakroom on the left.
@Jochen104 :
That’s a matter of opinion. I don’t like the “modern” detached houses. We have looked at over 100 houses and prefer this style.
@Manu1976 :
I will have to take care of the fireplace topic, but we want it as a "room divider."
Adding an extra toilet to the upstairs bathroom is also an option. I definitely want a separate toilet.
By the way, I have lived 25 years without a toilet in the bathroom and 10 years with one. I definitely don’t need it.
@marv45 :
Everyone basically wants approval first.
A pantry next to the kitchen would be an idea, but it’s not possible. We’ve thought about it a lot.
“Modern” detached houses often solve this with a 1-2m² (11-22 ft²) pantry. That’s not an option for us.
PS: Frequently used items (like pasta) will be kept in an apothecary cabinet.
The pantry is rather for items bought in bulk or used rarely.
@EveundGerd :
The fireplace will be connected to the heating circuit; otherwise, it would overheat the room entirely.
What compromises do you mean? It’s about weighing priorities and budget.
For us, the basement, garden space, location of the living/dining room + kitchen, and a separable stairwell are priorities.
That’s why this draft was created. Surely, the living room could be reduced from 4m to 3.5m (13 feet to 11.5 feet) in width to add a 15m² (161 ft²) bedroom on the ground floor. But that would bother us for the next 30+ years.
@ypg :
I don’t understand the limitation. For me, no room is limited except that the pantry is not directly next to the kitchen.
After subdivision, the ground floor will have an apartment with a pantry, but the bedroom is too small; on the plus side, there is direct access to the basement. On the upper floor, a two-room apartment is planned, featuring a 9cm² (97ft²) walk-in closet as a confined space and a separate toilet next to a large bathroom.
I just hope that the tenants downstairs are allowed to share the utility room and the garden.
At least the pantry is no longer located in the center of the house... I remember that the original design was also defended back then.
I just hope that the tenants downstairs are allowed to share the utility room and the garden.
At least the pantry is no longer located in the center of the house... I remember that the original design was also defended back then.
@ypg :
There are no tenants; I think you misunderstood something.
One option could be that we move downstairs (ground floor and basement), and one child or both children can live on the upper floor.
I don’t understand your criticisms.
I find the bedroom with the walk-in closet very well designed and would have planned it exactly like that myself.
The bathroom is also the ideal size, and the toilet could be integrated in the same way. However, we do not want that.
Enough has been said about the bedroom. I can only recommend that everyone looks at a room with these exact dimensions.
If we theoretically move to the ground floor, the pantry in the middle would no longer be a pantry but rather a storage room or storage space.
Regarding the pantry in the middle, I have already admitted that it is not very well designed.
But there was no other option except to relocate it completely.
Now that is being brought up as a criticism again.
There are no tenants; I think you misunderstood something.
One option could be that we move downstairs (ground floor and basement), and one child or both children can live on the upper floor.
I don’t understand your criticisms.
I find the bedroom with the walk-in closet very well designed and would have planned it exactly like that myself.
The bathroom is also the ideal size, and the toilet could be integrated in the same way. However, we do not want that.
Enough has been said about the bedroom. I can only recommend that everyone looks at a room with these exact dimensions.
If we theoretically move to the ground floor, the pantry in the middle would no longer be a pantry but rather a storage room or storage space.
Regarding the pantry in the middle, I have already admitted that it is not very well designed.
But there was no other option except to relocate it completely.
Now that is being brought up as a criticism again.
EveundGerd23 Apr 2015 12:39A water-based fireplace would definitely not overheat a room of this size. However, a room air-independent fireplace without a water jacket would.
Our children are almost grown and leaving home. I can’t imagine them moving back in with Mom and Dad, especially not voluntarily and with partners.
Why would they? Children eventually live their own lives!
Your opinion is already settled anyway, so all I can do is wish you good luck with your home construction.
Our children are almost grown and leaving home. I can’t imagine them moving back in with Mom and Dad, especially not voluntarily and with partners.
Why would they? Children eventually live their own lives!
Your opinion is already settled anyway, so all I can do is wish you good luck with your home construction.
derelvis schrieb:
We looked at exactly these dimensions (3.4 * 3.4m) (11’2” * 11’2”) in a model home community and came to the conclusion that it is definitely possible to sleep there.Looking is not living!
A 220cm (7’3”) bed, a wardrobe including baseboards 70cm (28”), leaves 50cm (20”) for passage.
Last year, I only had 50cm (20”) next to the bed because moving boxes blocked the way. Result: I broke my little toe. This year, a foot surgery left me paralyzed/disabled… I don’t need to go into details, but 50cm (20”) definitely wouldn’t have been enough to quickly get to the bathroom. It only gets harder with age…
derelvis schrieb:
Separatable living unitsderelvis schrieb:
There are no tenants, I think you misunderstood something.No, I think you missed explaining your point!
Ultimately, everyone should build as they wish. There are even homeowners who insist on having a basement but store all their rarely used stuff in precious square meters on the ground floor, for example, in the pantry.
A dressing room on the upper floor is, in my opinion, functional—also the bedroom. But overall, the house is no longer functional for separate apartments later on. If it is a MUST to separate upper and lower floors at a later stage, this must be planned accordingly. Otherwise, you will regret it later because one part is oversized, and another is disadvantageous.
What do you do with your guest toilet on the ground floor once you only live downstairs? Do you banish your wife from the bathroom so you can have your “separate unit”? Or do you knock on your adult child’s apartment door to use the separate toilet?
If you don’t understand my point of view, you have other users who have also given plenty of advice.
Best regards, Yvonne
Ok, thanks for your assessment.
In your opinion, what is oversized? Where could I save?
The pantry will store items that are used too rarely for the kitchen but too frequently for the basement.
Later on, with two people, I wouldn’t prioritize a separate unit; it only seems reasonable for 4-5 people.
In your opinion, what is oversized? Where could I save?
The pantry will store items that are used too rarely for the kitchen but too frequently for the basement.
Later on, with two people, I wouldn’t prioritize a separate unit; it only seems reasonable for 4-5 people.
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