ᐅ Single-Family Home Floor Plan, 141 sqm – Any Obvious Weaknesses?

Created on: 28 Jan 2016 13:24
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Dan8070
Hello everyone,

Attached is an initial preliminary design for a single-family house that we received after a first planning meeting with a construction company. After our "approval," we will receive the detailed offer.
North is at the top. Entrance is on the east side.

Within our possibilities and various compromises (it would have been nice to have a sliding door separating the living room, a larger storage room, and a slightly bigger bathroom to fit a built-in wardrobe), we are quite satisfied for the time being.

We have already requested that the stairwell window be enlarged from 2 meters to 3 meters (6.5 ft to 9.8 ft) in height, the front door to have the hinges reversed, the storage room window is still under discussion, the upstairs toilet may not be ideally placed, etc.

We would appreciate constructive feedback. Thank you very much!

Residents: 2 adults, 2 children (ages 1 and 10)
Development plan/restrictions: 2 stories, gable or hipped roof with 22-28% pitch
Plot size: 722 sqm (7,770 sq ft)
Slope: No
Parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: 2
Roof style: Hipped roof 22% pitch
Style: Townhouse?!?
Terrace facing south, entrance from the east

Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type
Basement, stories: basement plus 2 full floors
Number of occupants, ages
Space requirement for ground floor and first floor: approx. 65-70 sqm (700-750 sq ft) each
Office: none (nice to have, not a must)
Guest sleepers per year: 3-4

Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: YES (small)

Garage, carport: 1 single garage with an attached space for equipment/bikes

House design
Planning by: Planner from a construction company

What do you particularly like? Lots of space in the dining and living area, walk-in closet.
What don’t you like? Size of the hallway downstairs (too large?), storage too small, bathroom layout, bedroom somewhat too large.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approx. 320,000 - 340,000 turnkey without floor finishes
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 380,000
Preferred heating technology: Pellets/air heat pump (no gas on the property!)

If you have to give up some details/additions:
- What can you do without: Basically nothing anymore
- What can you not give up:

Floor plan of an apartment with living/dining/kitchen area, hallway, bathroom, terrace and garden.


Floor plan of a house: two children’s rooms, bedroom, dressing room, hallway, bathroom, stairs.


Basement floor plan: hallway, heating room, and cellar rooms 1-3 with stairs.
wpic28 Jan 2016 20:46
The shafts are not continuous—at least, I can’t find them on the ground floor. And the usual question: where do the plumbing lines for the bathroom come from and lead to, especially the wastewater pipes: soil stacks, vents through the roof, boxed-in sections under the ceiling above the ground floor.

The bathroom on the upper floor and the kitchen on the ground floor have no technical connection in terms of installations. This can lead to complications during the detailed planning phase, and ultimately during construction, including unhappy faces and makeshift boxed-in solutions.

The bathroom and Child 1’s room should be swapped on the floor plan. Ideally, basement rooms 1 and 2 should also be switched, if basement room 1 is the heating system room and the location of the heating system pipes can still be freely chosen.
Dan807028 Jan 2016 21:22
ypg schrieb:


I would also make some changes to the bathroom, but nothing to the walk-in closet.

For me, only a T-shaped layout would be an option in theory; this would mean the shower becomes a bit smaller.
Dan807028 Jan 2016 21:37
Grym schrieb:
Is the storage room even usable? An 80cm (31.5 inches) clearance and 20cm (8 inches) cabinet depth, or how is it planned?

The hot water tank is also at the maximum possible distance from the toilet and bathroom.

Why does Child 1 only get a north-facing room, while you want a south-facing bedroom and dressing room?

These L-shaped kitchens are not very popular, but I can’t go into details here.

Please also draw a youth bed (140cm x 200cm plus frame, about 150cm x 210cm (59 inches x 83 inches)), a proper desk (160cm or preferably larger, since it will serve as both a child’s study and computer desk), and a decent wardrobe (2 meters (6.6 feet)) to scale in the children’s rooms. Is there still space for hobbies, a chest of drawers, etc.?

When lying in the bathtub, the head is right next to the toilet. I don’t find that very appealing.

Thank you as well for your opinion!

I also find the storage room quite tight, yes. The dimensions are 1.10m x 1.70m (3.6 feet x 5.6 feet). Two narrow shelves, a few wall brackets; that’s about it. However, only the basics like staple foods, broom, and vacuum cleaner are supposed to be stored here. Unfortunately, we couldn’t place it anywhere else... The alternative would be not having a shower on the ground floor... which is actually not an option for us...

I hadn’t really considered the hot water tank situation... The consequence would then be that water (for example in the shower) takes a few seconds to heat up, right? But Basement 1 has to be the room with the house connections, because the supply comes from the street on the north side, according to the builder’s statement.

Children’s room: more precisely, it’s a west/north-facing room. That bothered me a bit too... but the sun comes around there from about 2 p.m. in summer and about 3 p.m. in winter... Surely not intentional. I would gladly swap the bedroom and kids’ room so both children have a south-facing room.

I would also be interested in a brief explanation of the disadvantages of an L-shaped kitchen.

Ideally, I would prefer children’s rooms of 20 square meters or more. Unfortunately, our budget limits us here. The children’s rooms in our current apartment measure 12.5 and 8.5 square meters... an improvement nonetheless. Of course, one could say, “Skip the dressing room, then the kids’ rooms will be bigger”...

As mentioned, the bathroom layout is not ideal for us and will need to be changed.
Dan807028 Jan 2016 21:44
wpic schrieb:
The shafts are not continuous – at least I can’t find them on the ground floor. And the usual question: where do the bathroom installation pipes come from/go to, especially the wastewater pipes: soil stacks, vents through the roof, droplines boxed in under the ceiling above the ground floor.

The bathroom on the upper floor and the kitchen on the ground floor are not connected in terms of installations. This can cause complications during detailed planning and especially during on-site work, including frustrating adjustments and boxed-in solutions.

The bathroom and Child 1 should be swapped on the floor plan. Ideally, also Basement 1 and 2 if Basement 1 is the utility room and the location of the main utility lines can still be chosen.

Thank you very much for your perspective!

By “shafts,” do you mean the laundry chute? It goes down from the bathroom upstairs through the wardrobe (it is marked) down to Basement 1.

Basically, I always thought (as a layperson) that it is especially important for the bathroom upstairs and the toilet downstairs to be aligned vertically and use the same soil stacks? I can’t say much about the rest. Is it important here where the drainage leads to the sewer? It is at the southern property boundary… so quite far away. How it all connects, I can’t say.

Swap the bathroom and Child 1? Then Child 1 would have 12.55 sqm (135 sq ft) in the northeast... Or am I misunderstanding? The bathroom window faces east.

Basement 1 is, as mentioned, the utility room. Electricity is connected directly at the north corner of the property. That is why this room was chosen.
Dan807028 Jan 2016 22:20
ypg schrieb:
A nice floor plan – if it fits the plot, which is unknown to us

Thank you as well, Yvonne! I forgot to mention it above.

Attached is a section of the plot that I have on my phone. The folder is currently in my cabinet at work.

144/5 is the plot. The central area 144/4 remains undeveloped. Below, with house number 7, is my parents’ house.

North is at the top.
Dan807028 Jan 2016 22:30
Damn, file too large. I will submit it tomorrow.

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