ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, 1 full story, utilities and natural lighting
Created on: 22 Jul 2024 08:21
K
klabauter8614
Hello, I would like to gather feedback on the floor plan in order to finalize the design. We don’t have sections or elevations yet, but all other drawings are attached (house shown schematically on the site plan). Thanks.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 473m² (5,089 ft²)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: maximum 2 without garage
Number of floors: 1 full floor
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation: Roof facing NNE - SSW
Maximum heights / limits: eave height 4.2m (13.8 ft), ridge height 9.5m (31.2 ft)
Further requirements: only renewable energy sources, infiltration trench for stormwater
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement (groundwater level at 1m (3.3 ft) depth), 1 full floor
Number of occupants, ages: 4, aged 40-40-7-2 years
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: Guesst room on the ground floor, office upstairs
Office use: family use or home office? Home office
Number of guest stays per year: 2 nights per week by one parent (also for coming years), parents-in-law stay several weeks annually
Open or closed layout
Traditional or modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island: semi-open (sliding door), kitchen island
Number of fixed dining seats: 6 fixed, expandable
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: herb garden
Additional wishes/special points/daily routine, including reasons for preferences or exclusions
House Design
Planner: synergy between architect and client, now 4th draft
What do you particularly like? Why? Guest room and WC + shower, similar existing layout already working (although a bed is drawn, it is actually a sofa bed), office on the north side, guest room size more than sufficient, wardrobe by the entrance, living room bright, washing machine + dryer upstairs.
What don’t you like? Why?
- Utility room is half unusable due to wardrobe protrusion (which is actually sensible) so it is too small. Attic storage needs to be moved from the garage into the thermal envelope inside the utility room, indoor unit could stay there. The mechanical ventilation system would also need to be installed in the utility room. Possible solution: enlarge kitchen to the rear and expand utility room accordingly. This would make the house larger though. No other solutions discussed yet.
- Stairs are too steep; architect now proposes a rise/run of 17.2cm/26cm (6.8"/10.2"), which may be borderline regarding comfortable step depth.
- Daylight in children’s rooms might be low due to west-facing windows and roughly 12.5% window-to-floor area ratio; simulation might be needed. Skylights wouldn’t significantly improve this; only a dormer and smaller gable windows would.
- As drawn, the kitchen island layout is not suitable for me; passage from utility room too narrow, should be moved to the opposite side, with sink and window to the left.
- Air conditioning would still be needed in the bedroom and children’s rooms, but with the current window and furniture arrangement this looks impractical.
- Shower upstairs located under sloped ceiling, not necessary but a minor point.
- Skylight in guest WC is not at head height, should be slightly higher, also a minor detail.
- Bathroom door upstairs should open outwards.
- Storage under the stairs is still missing.
- Partition wall in garage is unnecessary.
Cost estimate from architect/planner: unknown
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 650,000
Preferred heating technology: air-source heat pump
If you must give up something, which features or extensions
- Can you give up: walk-in closet
- Cannot give up: office, guest room
Why is the design like it is now?
Own design developed based on space requirements plus architect’s counter proposal
What do you consider especially good or problematic?
Main issues to resolve are utility room + technical space and daylight.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 473m² (5,089 ft²)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: maximum 2 without garage
Number of floors: 1 full floor
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation: Roof facing NNE - SSW
Maximum heights / limits: eave height 4.2m (13.8 ft), ridge height 9.5m (31.2 ft)
Further requirements: only renewable energy sources, infiltration trench for stormwater
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: no basement (groundwater level at 1m (3.3 ft) depth), 1 full floor
Number of occupants, ages: 4, aged 40-40-7-2 years
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: Guesst room on the ground floor, office upstairs
Office use: family use or home office? Home office
Number of guest stays per year: 2 nights per week by one parent (also for coming years), parents-in-law stay several weeks annually
Open or closed layout
Traditional or modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island: semi-open (sliding door), kitchen island
Number of fixed dining seats: 6 fixed, expandable
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: herb garden
Additional wishes/special points/daily routine, including reasons for preferences or exclusions
House Design
Planner: synergy between architect and client, now 4th draft
What do you particularly like? Why? Guest room and WC + shower, similar existing layout already working (although a bed is drawn, it is actually a sofa bed), office on the north side, guest room size more than sufficient, wardrobe by the entrance, living room bright, washing machine + dryer upstairs.
What don’t you like? Why?
- Utility room is half unusable due to wardrobe protrusion (which is actually sensible) so it is too small. Attic storage needs to be moved from the garage into the thermal envelope inside the utility room, indoor unit could stay there. The mechanical ventilation system would also need to be installed in the utility room. Possible solution: enlarge kitchen to the rear and expand utility room accordingly. This would make the house larger though. No other solutions discussed yet.
- Stairs are too steep; architect now proposes a rise/run of 17.2cm/26cm (6.8"/10.2"), which may be borderline regarding comfortable step depth.
- Daylight in children’s rooms might be low due to west-facing windows and roughly 12.5% window-to-floor area ratio; simulation might be needed. Skylights wouldn’t significantly improve this; only a dormer and smaller gable windows would.
- As drawn, the kitchen island layout is not suitable for me; passage from utility room too narrow, should be moved to the opposite side, with sink and window to the left.
- Air conditioning would still be needed in the bedroom and children’s rooms, but with the current window and furniture arrangement this looks impractical.
- Shower upstairs located under sloped ceiling, not necessary but a minor point.
- Skylight in guest WC is not at head height, should be slightly higher, also a minor detail.
- Bathroom door upstairs should open outwards.
- Storage under the stairs is still missing.
- Partition wall in garage is unnecessary.
Cost estimate from architect/planner: unknown
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 650,000
Preferred heating technology: air-source heat pump
If you must give up something, which features or extensions
- Can you give up: walk-in closet
- Cannot give up: office, guest room
Why is the design like it is now?
Own design developed based on space requirements plus architect’s counter proposal
What do you consider especially good or problematic?
Main issues to resolve are utility room + technical space and daylight.
K
klabauter861430 Jul 2024 17:24ypg schrieb:
And I don’t understand why you have an issue with moving the garage by half a meter. No sorry, I thought you meant it shouldn’t happen. Otherwise, I totally agree.
ypg schrieb:
The bedroom can be easily accessed through an organized walk-in closet. A larger walk-in closet could be useful, for example, for an ironing board and suitcases. You have to put your stuff somewhere. Ah okay, so the idea is not to plan a separate entrance.
ypg schrieb:
How you use the rooms, however, is up to you. I’m not telling you what to do in that regard. The background is actually this: Having the bedroom facing north is nice, but it’s better to stack the bathrooms, right? Then the rest will fall into place.
ypg schrieb:
But basically, I just wanted to hear your feedback. Also, how you feel about @K a t j a’s suggestion, you can share your thoughts. I find the approach with the rotated staircase instantly nicer, and definitely better than the current one. Although @K a t j a’s sketch even looks a bit more appealing. Maybe it’s the drawn details, including the roof slope extension for the terrace. I’m amazed at how much genius is found in simplicity. Big thank you.
What is the 1.8 x 1.2 m (6 ft x 4 ft) area at the entrance and on the upper floor? And is that staircase built to 18/27 or what are those measurements now?
klabauter8614 schrieb:
Yes, indeed, without a finished attic you find more, I’m a bit “overwhelmed” reading through everything you want to fit into one house. From a visual and style perspective, the house is already quite nice. You or the original poster have big wishes: an open space between the living and dining areas to create a more generous area for the kids to play, then a breakfast bar (I think that was mentioned earlier in this thread), two offices—one intended for regular use by the parents—plus a walk-in closet and a potential retreat room in the attic. I’ve mentioned it before: essential rooms are being neglected. The utility room isn’t primarily for housing technical equipment; rather, the priority seems to be creating a passage or buffer zone.
Yesterday, I also did some drawing myself. Something has come out of it, although the upper floor is a bit lacking. As usual, I got frustrated about fixed must-haves that you have to design around. It seems you can’t plan properly and nicely because this Sword of Damocles is hanging over you—to include a pointless* must-have—and then upstairs nothing works anymore, the budget is blown, and everything ends up way too big. Or the original poster complains about a spacious bathroom or a wall that doesn’t fit their taste. *It’s pointless because any normal person can bring groceries through the main entrance and hallway into the house. There they take off shoes and jackets and can comfortably bring the groceries into the kitchen. Life and the house can be almost perfect, welcoming guests with a nice entryway, but they want to misuse the already too small utility room as a hallway, pantry, and cloakroom. Of course, it can be used as a laundry and storage room, but fundamentally a utility room isn’t meant to be a pleasant room—it’s simply the most useful one.
Anyway, to make a long story short, I will post my design proposal here later.
K
klabauter861430 Jul 2024 19:18Well, the description still wasn’t precise enough; I don’t recognize my needs from it. I’ll make it more binary (room sizes are still indicative):
Must have: living area on the ground floor with space for 2 people ~10m2 (108 sq ft), guest toilet with shower on the ground floor ~5m2 (54 sq ft), short distance from kitchen to dining table ~10-15m2 (108-162 sq ft) including dining area, 3 bedrooms ~13m2 (140 sq ft) each and 1 office ~8m2 (86 sq ft), master bedroom must fit a 2x2m (6.6x6.6 ft) bed and a 5-door wardrobe about 3m (10 ft) wide (walk-in closet doesn’t matter).
Nice to have: short path from garage/parking to kitchen and storage, e.g., utility room (I don’t mind if that means a direct connection or just a short walk; unlike “normal” people, I carry things in one trip down a hallway). Kitchen with island. Cooking/dining/living area preferably separated by odor control from the rest. Living room preferably quiet yet very bright. Dining area sunny, with a bit more space for children to play on the ground floor, visible from the day’s activity in the kitchen. 🙂
No idea if sensible and want to discuss: converted attic with fixed staircase. Some technical installations partly in the garage.
I hope this clarifies the “airlock” situation and allows focusing on the must-haves. @ypg Sorry for still describing the input unclearly.
Must have: living area on the ground floor with space for 2 people ~10m2 (108 sq ft), guest toilet with shower on the ground floor ~5m2 (54 sq ft), short distance from kitchen to dining table ~10-15m2 (108-162 sq ft) including dining area, 3 bedrooms ~13m2 (140 sq ft) each and 1 office ~8m2 (86 sq ft), master bedroom must fit a 2x2m (6.6x6.6 ft) bed and a 5-door wardrobe about 3m (10 ft) wide (walk-in closet doesn’t matter).
Nice to have: short path from garage/parking to kitchen and storage, e.g., utility room (I don’t mind if that means a direct connection or just a short walk; unlike “normal” people, I carry things in one trip down a hallway). Kitchen with island. Cooking/dining/living area preferably separated by odor control from the rest. Living room preferably quiet yet very bright. Dining area sunny, with a bit more space for children to play on the ground floor, visible from the day’s activity in the kitchen. 🙂
No idea if sensible and want to discuss: converted attic with fixed staircase. Some technical installations partly in the garage.
I hope this clarifies the “airlock” situation and allows focusing on the must-haves. @ypg Sorry for still describing the input unclearly.
Here is my ground floor plan again. The upper floor is similar to @K a t j a’s, just with a corner cut-off, but Katja’s design could be used and the corner cut-off omitted.
The house with 95sqm (1024 sq ft) on the ground floor is too large for the budget. @K a t j a’s should be around 100sqm (1076 sq ft).
The attic staircase can be placed over the other staircase.
My software can only depict roofs and dormers in a limited way.
The house with 95sqm (1024 sq ft) on the ground floor is too large for the budget. @K a t j a’s should be around 100sqm (1076 sq ft).
The attic staircase can be placed over the other staircase.
My software can only depict roofs and dormers in a limited way.
I think the original poster should first close the attic topic, especially regarding the budget, before having new plans made.
Placing some of the technical equipment in the garage seems to me like a bad idea. Which equipment exactly, and what do you hope to achieve with that? Is the space supposed to be included in the building’s thermal envelope?
Placing some of the technical equipment in the garage seems to me like a bad idea. Which equipment exactly, and what do you hope to achieve with that? Is the space supposed to be included in the building’s thermal envelope?
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