ᐅ Floor plan for a single-family house with 1.5 stories, gable roof, no basement, 190 m² (2,045 sq ft)
Created on: 6 Mar 2023 10:05
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droopy987
Hello,
first, here are the answers to your questions. Our plan is a single-family house with approximately 190 m² (2045 sq ft) according to DIN 277.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 700 m² (7535 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 2
Building envelope, building line and boundary:
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: 1.5
Roof type: gable roof
Style: single-family house
Orientation: west-facing
Maximum heights / limits: max. 9 m height (30 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: single-family house with gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: planned for 2 adults + 2 children
Room requirements on ground/upper floor:
GF --> living room, kitchen, guest room, shower bathroom, utility room.
UF --> bedroom, bathroom, 2 children’s rooms + office, possibly small storage room
Office use: family use or home office? home office
Number of overnight guests per year:
Open or closed layout: rather closed, but generally open to all options
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: rather closed kitchen, no island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes, carport planned
Utility garden, greenhouse
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included:
The kitchen should be rather closed off from the living room because of odors, etc. Therefore, the wall to the living room. However, we would like to shift this wall slightly toward the kitchen to create a niche in the living room for a sofa/TV. Positioning the TV and sofa on the ground floor is still a challenge for us. We welcome suggestions.
On the upper floor, we want to shift the wall to the bathroom slightly so that the wardrobe can be placed just behind the bedroom door, preventing someone from walking directly into a wardrobe when entering. But the shift should be limited so the shower still fits behind the bathroom door. We also considered adding a walk-in closet or using the gable room for this, but decided against it because we feel the room is too valuable for that. Since we want the bedroom exactly where it is now and want the children’s rooms to be the same size, there are no other options for the walk-in closet—or at least none we have thought of. If you have any ideas to incorporate a walk-in closet, please share them.
We have thought about the room layout carefully. For example, the kitchen on the ground floor should face east to get some morning sun. The children’s rooms on the upper floor should face south to be bright. That is why the bedroom is positioned in the north. This also determines the bathroom and gable placement.
House Design
Planning by:
- Planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
Gable room on the upper floor, the size of the individual rooms, bright living room with three doors.
What do you dislike? Why?
No walk-in closet or only difficult to realize with the current room layout. The living room might be a bit small due to the wall to the kitchen. Finding placement options for sofa and TV is challenging.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings/accessories:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details / extensions
- Can you give up: walk-in closet
- Cannot give up: bright, large living room. Bedroom should be designed so that you don’t walk directly into the wardrobe when entering.
Why has the design ended up like this? e.g.
Standard design from the planner? More or less standard design
Which wishes were realized by the architect? Closed kitchen, shower bathroom on ground floor
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
We really like the general room layout.
What is your most important / basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Alternate ground floor layout for sofa/TV arrangement + options for walk-in closet upstairs? --> Optimal layout of approx. 190 m² (2045 sq ft)
We would be very grateful for suggestions and tips on our building project! We have already marked a few adjustments below but are generally open. Thank you very much in advance!
first, here are the answers to your questions. Our plan is a single-family house with approximately 190 m² (2045 sq ft) according to DIN 277.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 700 m² (7535 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 2
Building envelope, building line and boundary:
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: 1.5
Roof type: gable roof
Style: single-family house
Orientation: west-facing
Maximum heights / limits: max. 9 m height (30 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: single-family house with gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: planned for 2 adults + 2 children
Room requirements on ground/upper floor:
GF --> living room, kitchen, guest room, shower bathroom, utility room.
UF --> bedroom, bathroom, 2 children’s rooms + office, possibly small storage room
Office use: family use or home office? home office
Number of overnight guests per year:
Open or closed layout: rather closed, but generally open to all options
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: rather closed kitchen, no island
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes, carport planned
Utility garden, greenhouse
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included:
The kitchen should be rather closed off from the living room because of odors, etc. Therefore, the wall to the living room. However, we would like to shift this wall slightly toward the kitchen to create a niche in the living room for a sofa/TV. Positioning the TV and sofa on the ground floor is still a challenge for us. We welcome suggestions.
On the upper floor, we want to shift the wall to the bathroom slightly so that the wardrobe can be placed just behind the bedroom door, preventing someone from walking directly into a wardrobe when entering. But the shift should be limited so the shower still fits behind the bathroom door. We also considered adding a walk-in closet or using the gable room for this, but decided against it because we feel the room is too valuable for that. Since we want the bedroom exactly where it is now and want the children’s rooms to be the same size, there are no other options for the walk-in closet—or at least none we have thought of. If you have any ideas to incorporate a walk-in closet, please share them.
We have thought about the room layout carefully. For example, the kitchen on the ground floor should face east to get some morning sun. The children’s rooms on the upper floor should face south to be bright. That is why the bedroom is positioned in the north. This also determines the bathroom and gable placement.
House Design
Planning by:
- Planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
Gable room on the upper floor, the size of the individual rooms, bright living room with three doors.
What do you dislike? Why?
No walk-in closet or only difficult to realize with the current room layout. The living room might be a bit small due to the wall to the kitchen. Finding placement options for sofa and TV is challenging.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings/accessories:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details / extensions
- Can you give up: walk-in closet
- Cannot give up: bright, large living room. Bedroom should be designed so that you don’t walk directly into the wardrobe when entering.
Why has the design ended up like this? e.g.
Standard design from the planner? More or less standard design
Which wishes were realized by the architect? Closed kitchen, shower bathroom on ground floor
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
We really like the general room layout.
What is your most important / basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Alternate ground floor layout for sofa/TV arrangement + options for walk-in closet upstairs? --> Optimal layout of approx. 190 m² (2045 sq ft)
We would be very grateful for suggestions and tips on our building project! We have already marked a few adjustments below but are generally open. Thank you very much in advance!
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droopy9878 Mar 2023 16:1211ant schrieb:
No, the floor plan is quite normal in terms of layout, so I initially overlooked the steep staircase because I expected a functional catalog design. I didn’t count the square meters, but if the total area is that large, it exceeds the reasonable needs here by so much that quite a bit could still be omitted. Overall, I have some reason to believe that you and the designer lack a clear sense of dimensions. That’s why the total area easily inflates as much as public construction costs usually do ;-) Ah, I see. Yes, actually 150 to 160 m² (1,615 to 1,722 sq ft) would have been enough for us. But we were lucky to get the bigger house basically at the price of the smaller one. You just don’t say no to that. Now it’s about planning it as well as possible... ;-)
ypg schrieb:
There’s only sun there in the mornings during winter. If you value sunlight from the east, why not create a breakfast terrace there for weekends and orient the house accordingly? You’d just have to get up early. Yes, we’ve come to realize that this is not really a strong argument. So now we’re also considering putting the kitchen either where the guest room is currently planned or down in the bottom left where we planned the TV and sofa. In both cases, you can go directly onto the terrace and generally keep walking distances short. That’s not a bad thing. Each would have a sliding door to close it off to the living room if needed.
ypg schrieb:
The best place for a home office? Sorry, it’s nice, but after 2 p.m. the expensive roller shutters will have to come down anyway. I don’t know what could inspire you so much toward the west that you want to keep using the PC there. Well, that was also a consideration. We could also make the guest room downstairs our office, depending on where exactly it ends up. Then you wouldn’t have a problem with the sun.
ypg schrieb:
I also find that even houses as large as 160 m² (1,722 sq ft) appear bigger than this floor plan. However, the 190 m² (2,045 sq ft) isn’t actual living space. Maybe I’ll find alternatives tonight. Are you aiming more for 150 to 160 m² (1,615 to 1,722 sq ft)? I would personally focus more on the south and not just place the house straight and flat on the lot, as if there were nothing next to the large garden area at the back. Are the dimensions for the carport correct? Also consider separating the living room with a sliding door and assigning the entire dining area to the kitchen. Yes, that’s true. The 190 m² (2,045 sq ft) is the footprint. The actual living space is a bit less due to the sloping walls upstairs. Have you found any alternatives? That would be great. The carport dimensions are only approximate. As I said, we haven’t finalized the plan yet. What do you mean by focusing on the south exactly? Do you mean positioning the house slightly further south on the plot?
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
You placed the house away from the building line without reason.
Using the full height allows you to have a taller knee wall or build a real two-story house. That’s why I asked about roof pitch and knee wall height.
The house footprint could be planned much more efficiently if the height was better utilized. Okay, I understand. We can build a knee wall up to 1.10 m (3 ft 7 in) without much extra cost. Currently, 90 cm (35 inches) is planned. Roof pitch is 45°. I don’t know exactly how 1.10 m (3 ft 7 in) knee wall height would help improve the design, but I imagine it would be beneficial.
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droopy9878 Mar 2023 16:18... and here again is the plan with the building lines, etc.
droopy987 schrieb:
Actually, 150 to 160 m² (1,615 to 1,722 sq ft) would have been enough for us. But we were lucky and got the larger house basically at the price of the smaller one. You don’t say no to something like that. Now it’s about planning it as well as possible... ;-) Yes, you do say no. A builder who casually offers over 80,000 euros in discount in the form of free extra square meters is at least incredible, if not downright suspicious. Of course, you say no to that, especially since they won’t clean or heat those extra areas for you. And you can hardly plan well if the basics are already flawed:
droopy987 schrieb:
So we can increase the knee wall height up to 1.10 m (3 ft 7 in) without much extra cost. Currently, 90 cm (35 in) is planned. Roof pitch is 45°. I’m not sure how exactly a 1.10 m (3 ft 7 in) knee wall would help improve things here, but I could imagine it would. All these dimensions become irrelevant once the incorrect stair dimensions are fixed and the house depth increases accordingly. Roof pitch only partially compensates for knee wall height. And why should a builder limit the increased knee wall to just 20 cm (8 in) when he’s already offering a discount equivalent to 30 m² (323 sq ft) of total floor area?
By the way, the inquiry about a genuine two-story house was probably not meant as a technical two full floors calculation, but rather in the sense of a so-called “town villa” with a “full-height knee wall.”
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droopy987 schrieb:
Have you found any alternatives yet? 🙂 That would be great. I forgot to mention that 😳
But it’s not about a different floor plan now, just this one, but harmonized... although the exterior dimensions will be different.
droopy987 schrieb:
So you mean it’s better to position the house a bit further south? No, definitely not. Just make the most out of the wonderful plot and don’t simply stick the house in the middle and then try to figure out where carport and terrace can fit. Nowadays there is a trend toward a second terrace, but that definitely needs to be considered in the floor plan as well.
If you like to enjoy the morning sun, plan it so you can get it from the kitchen terrace door. That would work best facing south.
droopy987 schrieb:
So we can have a knee wall up to 1.10m (3.6 ft) without much extra cost. Currently, 90cm (3 ft) is planned. Definitely do it!
droopy987 schrieb:
... and here again the plan with the building lines etc. Those are building boundaries! Building lines must be strictly observed and you must build up to them. Building boundaries only define the building envelope (building area). (You can’t say this often enough in a building forum 😉 )
ypg schrieb:
These are building boundaries! Building lines / setback lines must be strictly observed, and construction must take place along them. Building boundaries only define the allowable building area. (You can’t say this often enough in a building forum 😉 ) Oh, that's as pointless as explaining that a general contractor is different from a property developer :-)
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Here are a few quick sketches. Please consider them just as rough drafts; I haven’t accounted for everything, but the ground floor is always just under 90 sqm (about 970 sq ft) roughly.
The classic layout with your orientation. On the upper floor, sliding doors at about 250 cm (8 ft 2 in) height under the sloping roof. You could possibly separate a storage room (AB) there. Gable-sided, ideal for the children.
Here with your room orientation… don’t be confused by the mirrored layout.
If you planned around the plot, this house orientation would probably result:
And here are some inspirations from the web:
The classic layout with your orientation. On the upper floor, sliding doors at about 250 cm (8 ft 2 in) height under the sloping roof. You could possibly separate a storage room (AB) there. Gable-sided, ideal for the children.
Here with your room orientation… don’t be confused by the mirrored layout.
If you planned around the plot, this house orientation would probably result:
And here are some inspirations from the web:
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