ᐅ Floor Plan for a Semi-Detached House (7x10 meters) – Your Expertise Needed

Created on: 22 Aug 2016 21:11
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Jazz089
Development plan/restrictions: unfortunately, there is a development plan
Plot size: 348sqm (3746 sq ft)
Slope: flat
Site coverage ratio:
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: 7x10m (23x33 ft)
Adjacent buildings: single-family houses
Number of parking spaces: 2

Number of floors: full floors plus attic
Roof type: gable roof, 30°
Architectural style
Orientation: south/west/east (a bit of each) J
Maximum height/limits: I believe 6m (20 ft)
Further requirements: unknown

Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: basement plus 2 full floors, finished attic
Number of occupants, age: currently 2 adults and a toddler, another child planned
Space requirements for ground floor and upper floor
Office / guest room

Number of overnight guests per year: rather few
Open architecture
Modern construction
Open kitchen
Number of dining seats: 5
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: maybe
Balcony, roof terrace: would be nice but not planned
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine

House design
Planning by:
- Planner from a construction company
What do you like most? not much, the location of the plot
What do you not like? relatively large kitchen (bay window lies outside the building envelope → may not be approved), very little space for a small shower room in the attic, no or hardly any space for a shower
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system: gas with solar

If you have to give up on which details/extensions
- can you do without:
- can’t do without:

Dear experienced home builders,

Here comes another floor plan, this time quite standard, as we are building a very normal semi-detached house. Still, I hope you can help me a bit. I at least have the feeling that there are some valuable tips for me here in the forum. Thank you very much in advance.

As you can see, we are unfortunately very limited due to the small building envelope and can’t build a very large semi-detached house. We would like to place a bay window outside the building envelope to gain extra space on the ground floor. Unfortunately, this would mean we no longer qualify for the simplified approval process and would have to have the plan fully approved. Our builder (I think they just want to get their payment as soon as possible) insists on staying within the simplified approval process, but we want to at least try to get the bay window approved. That’s why there are two plans, with and without the bay window.

Somehow, I am not satisfied with the floor plan at all. I actually wanted the staircase access to be in the hallway, but now I see that this takes up a lot of space and the kitchen (which, by the way, lacks a window) seems relatively large. I would prefer to move the stairway a bit to the right and reduce the storage room. But this leads to our big problem: we would like to have a shower room in the attic. That is already hardly possible, and if the stairway moves even further right, there would barely be any space left... oh man, does anyone here have a solution?

We basically need to redesign the basement again. It seems that the builder didn’t quite understand us...

Anyway, I look forward to any critical tips and hope for plenty of feedback! Many thanks in advance to the forum community!!!!

Ground floor plan with bay window: living/dining, kitchen, hallway, storage room, WC.
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j.bautsch
23 Aug 2016 08:05
Well, it doesn’t necessarily have to be a different stair shape; you can also simply extend it. I think for a half-turn staircase with a width of 2 meters (6.6 feet), the length should be around 2.4 meters (7.9 feet). At least where we are, there are also stair showrooms where you can try out stairs, or they might be the best ones to advise on the appropriate dimensions a staircase should have. There are also stair calculators available online.
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kbt09
23 Aug 2016 08:07
Well, simply extending and widening everything is not without issues; you have to consider the impact on each individual floor.
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j.bautsch
23 Aug 2016 08:20
therefore simply put in quotation marks
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Jazz089
23 Aug 2016 08:32
First of all, thank you very much. I will definitely discuss the staircase with my planner, but I’m afraid it might not be that simple. But we’ll see, maybe we can still find a solution. If not, we’ll just have to live with it.

Last night I had the idea that if the staircase is moved further to the right, we would have more space on the left side of the top floor for the shower bathroom. However, I’m not sure how this would work with the supply lines, since the bathroom would no longer be located above the other bathroom, etc.
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ypg
23 Aug 2016 09:02
No, that’s not possible.
The staircase at the top in the attic only has headroom exactly in that spot!
I would approach this a bit differently, considering you have around 180 sqm (around 1938 sq ft) including the basement plus the attic available. You should be able to do more if you take a closer look at the spatial requirements: for example, I would try to break up the narrow, corridor-like layout on the ground floor (kitchen) by using a narrow 2/4-turn staircase and giving up the storage room. I also question the need for storage space under the attic — there is plenty of storage in the basement. It would be better to have a more open feeling upstairs with fewer walls. The walk-in closet is not really usable, only with a lowered head height!
On the other hand, you have one too many rooms on the upper floor.
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Jazz089
23 Aug 2016 09:13
ypg schrieb:
No, that’s not possible.
The staircase only has headroom right at the top in the attic!
I would approach this a bit differently, considering you have 180 sqm (1937 sq ft) plus the attic including the basement. More should be possible if you reconsider the room requirements: for example, I would try to break up the narrow, elongated shape on the ground floor (kitchen) by using a slim quarter-turn staircase and give up the storage room. I also question the need for storage space under the attic since there is plenty of it in the basement. Better to create a more spacious feeling upstairs by minimizing walls or almost none at all. The dressing area is not usable, only with restricted headroom!
On the other hand, you have one too many rooms on the first floor.

Well, that’s true about the headroom. Maybe adding an extra roof window could create more space?

How exactly does a slim quarter-turn staircase work? I’m reluctant to give up the storage space on the ground floor because I just find it very practical.

The storage room in the attic is meant to be a walk-in closet. I think we will remove the partition wall as well as the other walls. That means the bedroom will have no door and it will all be open. The planner drew it incorrectly...

Downstairs really is narrow and elongated. I thought if we reduce the hallway and kitchen areas, it might feel different. I’m really hoping we get the bay window approved. Or that our neighboring family doesn’t interfere with our setback permissions...

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