Hello dear forum members,
as a silent reader, I have now registered because our planning is slowly getting underway. We have received the first preliminary design from the planner, and I would like to ask for suggestions and feedback.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 632 m² (approx. 21 meters wide, approx. 30 meters long)
Slope: Yes, from north to south along the street, approx. 1.40 m (4.6 ft) height difference over 21 m (69 ft) (plot will be leveled/filled)
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: n/a
Building envelope, building line, and setback: 3 meters (10 ft) distance from the street and the north side (whether the garage may be built on the boundary here is currently being clarified), otherwise almost everything is possible
Edge development: see above
Number of parking spaces: n/a
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: completely open
Architectural style: completely open
Orientation: n/a
Maximum height limits: ridge height 9.50 m (31 ft)
Other requirements: n/a
It should be mentioned that to the east is the street, to the north a small footpath (3 meters wide (10 ft)) with the next neighbor beyond it. To the south, there is a 12-meter-long (39 ft) garage located 1 meter (3 ft) from the property boundary, so fewer large windows are planned on the south side, but still enough for proper lighting. To the west, there are only fields and meadows behind us (edge of town), so the large windows are on this side. The garden is located on the west side.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: "City villa" type, modern, pyramid roof
Basement, floors: 2-story design without sloped ceilings, no basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 people (26 and 28 years), no children (planning for 1 child in the future)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: basically as shown on the floor plan
Office: for family use, space for PC and various documents
Guest overnight stays per year: very rare, max. 2
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, possibly with a peninsula
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: ???
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: single or double garage, possibly carport depending on cost
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine: ---
House Design
Planning by: planner/structural engineer, single contract
What we like in particular:
- On the ground floor: entrance area, straight staircase, open living-dining area but the kitchen is still somewhat hidden
- On the upper floor: basically everything is perfect (except the windows, which may still be changed)
What we don’t like: long distance to the kitchen on the ground floor, exterior view of the south side (in my opinion, the small kitchen window spoils the look), window arrangement and size generally need to be reconsidered throughout the design
Price estimate according to architect/planner: ---
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: ---
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up certain details or expansions:
- What you could give up: study/living room/children’s room could be smaller, door from the utility room to the garage will probably be removed
- What you cannot give up: wardrobe, dressing room, "T-shaped" bathroom solution, small laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine/dryer
Just a few words:
I know that the exact dimensions etc. are still missing here. This is the first preliminary draft from our planner, which will be further developed if we like the concept. So first we have to decide whether we want to build on this or if the design should be completely discarded or heavily modified. Everything is still open. Basically, we really like the design and have already fallen a bit in love with it. My only concern on the ground floor is the long walk to the kitchen. I have been quietly reading in this forum for some time and know that a short distance to the kitchen is favored, which is definitely not the case here. But it’s hard for me to say whether this will really bother us. Of course, groceries and such will have to be carried a bit further, but I wonder if that alone is really serious enough to dismiss a design that we otherwise really like. My husband says it doesn’t bother him, and honestly, I can’t say if it bothers me either... it just caught my attention because, from reading quietly in the forum, I started noticing these details. But would it actually bother me in daily life? It’s just difficult, and I’m torn at the moment. That’s why I’m mainly hoping for opinions on the distance from the entrance to the kitchen. Further suggestions and criticism are of course also very welcome!
Regarding the views: front and north elevations do not currently exist, as changes have already been made and I do not have a current drawing at the moment.
Based on my own rough measurements, here are some approximate room areas:
- Kitchen: 8.50 m² (without pantry under the stairs) — is this too small?
- Utility room: 8.30 m²
- Study: 10.50 m²
- Bathroom: 10.90 m²
- Children’s room: 15.40 m²
- Dressing room should be sufficiently sized (approx. 2.15 m (7 ft) wide, approx. 3.40 m (11 ft) long)
#Attachments deleted on request of original poster; building expert
Many thanks in advance to everyone who answers!
as a silent reader, I have now registered because our planning is slowly getting underway. We have received the first preliminary design from the planner, and I would like to ask for suggestions and feedback.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 632 m² (approx. 21 meters wide, approx. 30 meters long)
Slope: Yes, from north to south along the street, approx. 1.40 m (4.6 ft) height difference over 21 m (69 ft) (plot will be leveled/filled)
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: n/a
Building envelope, building line, and setback: 3 meters (10 ft) distance from the street and the north side (whether the garage may be built on the boundary here is currently being clarified), otherwise almost everything is possible
Edge development: see above
Number of parking spaces: n/a
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: completely open
Architectural style: completely open
Orientation: n/a
Maximum height limits: ridge height 9.50 m (31 ft)
Other requirements: n/a
It should be mentioned that to the east is the street, to the north a small footpath (3 meters wide (10 ft)) with the next neighbor beyond it. To the south, there is a 12-meter-long (39 ft) garage located 1 meter (3 ft) from the property boundary, so fewer large windows are planned on the south side, but still enough for proper lighting. To the west, there are only fields and meadows behind us (edge of town), so the large windows are on this side. The garden is located on the west side.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: "City villa" type, modern, pyramid roof
Basement, floors: 2-story design without sloped ceilings, no basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 people (26 and 28 years), no children (planning for 1 child in the future)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: basically as shown on the floor plan
Office: for family use, space for PC and various documents
Guest overnight stays per year: very rare, max. 2
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, possibly with a peninsula
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: ???
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: single or double garage, possibly carport depending on cost
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine: ---
House Design
Planning by: planner/structural engineer, single contract
What we like in particular:
- On the ground floor: entrance area, straight staircase, open living-dining area but the kitchen is still somewhat hidden
- On the upper floor: basically everything is perfect (except the windows, which may still be changed)
What we don’t like: long distance to the kitchen on the ground floor, exterior view of the south side (in my opinion, the small kitchen window spoils the look), window arrangement and size generally need to be reconsidered throughout the design
Price estimate according to architect/planner: ---
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: ---
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up certain details or expansions:
- What you could give up: study/living room/children’s room could be smaller, door from the utility room to the garage will probably be removed
- What you cannot give up: wardrobe, dressing room, "T-shaped" bathroom solution, small laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine/dryer
Just a few words:
I know that the exact dimensions etc. are still missing here. This is the first preliminary draft from our planner, which will be further developed if we like the concept. So first we have to decide whether we want to build on this or if the design should be completely discarded or heavily modified. Everything is still open. Basically, we really like the design and have already fallen a bit in love with it. My only concern on the ground floor is the long walk to the kitchen. I have been quietly reading in this forum for some time and know that a short distance to the kitchen is favored, which is definitely not the case here. But it’s hard for me to say whether this will really bother us. Of course, groceries and such will have to be carried a bit further, but I wonder if that alone is really serious enough to dismiss a design that we otherwise really like. My husband says it doesn’t bother him, and honestly, I can’t say if it bothers me either... it just caught my attention because, from reading quietly in the forum, I started noticing these details. But would it actually bother me in daily life? It’s just difficult, and I’m torn at the moment. That’s why I’m mainly hoping for opinions on the distance from the entrance to the kitchen. Further suggestions and criticism are of course also very welcome!
Regarding the views: front and north elevations do not currently exist, as changes have already been made and I do not have a current drawing at the moment.
Based on my own rough measurements, here are some approximate room areas:
- Kitchen: 8.50 m² (without pantry under the stairs) — is this too small?
- Utility room: 8.30 m²
- Study: 10.50 m²
- Bathroom: 10.90 m²
- Children’s room: 15.40 m²
- Dressing room should be sufficiently sized (approx. 2.15 m (7 ft) wide, approx. 3.40 m (11 ft) long)
#Attachments deleted on request of original poster; building expert
Many thanks in advance to everyone who answers!
- Kitchen and bathroom on the same side of the house – this makes plumbing easier
- Doors to the children’s rooms about 75–80cm (30–31.5 inches) away from the central wall – this allows for better room layout
- Access to the master bedroom through the walk-in closet
- In the utility room, place the machines against the wall adjacent to the bathroom (connections!)
- Is there enough space in the garage for garden furniture and tools? If not, either extend the garage or add a shed
Hello,
we have a similar floor plan in terms of room layout.
Our staircase is positioned a bit further down on the plan (so closer to the front door – the concern about a dirt zone hasn’t bothered us much so far).
The utility room on the upper floor (in our case the children's bathroom) would, of course, need to be relocated to the upper side wall of the plan.
Groceries coming from the garage first go into the utility room. Beverage crates and larger items stay there, the rest then goes from there into the kitchen. This arrangement hasn’t been a problem for us yet.
I wouldn’t have the door to the guest toilet open into the cloakroom. It can get quite tight there otherwise.
we have a similar floor plan in terms of room layout.
Our staircase is positioned a bit further down on the plan (so closer to the front door – the concern about a dirt zone hasn’t bothered us much so far).
The utility room on the upper floor (in our case the children's bathroom) would, of course, need to be relocated to the upper side wall of the plan.
Groceries coming from the garage first go into the utility room. Beverage crates and larger items stay there, the rest then goes from there into the kitchen. This arrangement hasn’t been a problem for us yet.
I wouldn’t have the door to the guest toilet open into the cloakroom. It can get quite tight there otherwise.
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Bauherrin20169 Mar 2016 09:21Thank you all for your responses. My husband and I now also believe that quite a few changes need to be made to the floor plan. We will take some time to consider this and discuss it with the architect.
I will provide a more detailed response at a later time. Sometimes, events in life occur that make everything else seem unimportant. Just a few hours after I posted the floor plan on Saturday, we were struck by a tragic event that we now need to process first.
I will provide a more detailed response at a later time. Sometimes, events in life occur that make everything else seem unimportant. Just a few hours after I posted the floor plan on Saturday, we were struck by a tragic event that we now need to process first.
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Bauexperte9 Mar 2016 12:30Bauherrin2016 schrieb:
A few hours after I posted the floor plan on Saturday, we were hit by a stroke of fate that we now need to come to terms with.No matter what it is – it’s always difficult when fate strikes.Take all the time you need; building a house will still be there when you’re ready!
Best regards, Bauexperte
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