ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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R.Hotzenplotz
9 Jul 2018 11:23
The construction plans I signed off on versus the plans currently in circulation. I think the original ones look better to me.

January 10

2D kitchen floor plan in the construction drawing showing extractor hood, exhaust, and pipes


March 23

Technical building drawing: DN 100 fitting through floor slab, dimensions and lintel 28.5x38 cm (11.2x15 inches).


I don’t believe I approved this, and it doesn’t make sense to extend the ceiling opening if the large structure running along the wall keeps the previous dimensions anyway.
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matte
9 Jul 2018 11:29
Um, I can’t follow you.
Both versions suggest a surface-mounted installation since there are no wall chases or similar indicated.
The longer distribution duct (DD) in the second version doesn’t change that. I assume it was extended to allow the electrical conduit to pass through.

To me, it looks like it was built exactly as shown in the plan and approved by you. :/
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R.Hotzenplotz
9 Jul 2018 11:31
With a larger ceiling opening, the cable route to the right also becomes longer, doesn’t it?
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matte
9 Jul 2018 11:35
No. Because the opening itself doesn’t provide any information about the routing of the pipes.
A pipe route is suggested, but it is the same in both versions.
That’s why I suspect the depth of the structural slab was increased only due to other trades not shown in the plan (electrical).
As indicated, the wastewater pipe comes down from the ceiling, then runs UNDER the ceiling to the right into the corner and continues down there until it penetrates the floor slab.
Exactly as shown in your picture.
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kbt09
9 Jul 2018 12:04
I find the location of the exhaust vent strange. That is not supposed to be for the range hood, is it? If so, it shouldn’t be done that way.
11ant9 Jul 2018 13:11
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
You mean like this?

Not quite, but right up to the window reveal. Wasn't there supposed to be a bistro table by the corner window earlier?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
How can you design a wall like that in the kitchen?

By having not looked at a kitchen catalog in a long time, and understandably not thinking of a "Bauhaus" style interior with a hip roof.
Maria16 schrieb:
Even though it’s difficult: try to distance yourself from the idea of hating everything already! It will work out!

The guests at the housewarming party will see the house fully dressed up and will admire it. But saying goodbye won’t be hard if—probably before school starts—someone makes a good offer for the house.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Then they’ll try to claim that I wanted the kitchen under the children’s bathroom, I guess

Well, not entirely unjustified: the kitchen was indeed going to be under the garage-side child’s room at one point, and then there was that pipe running through the guest WC (probably a DD 40/20 pipe, to handle ventilation).

I could be mean and say: a house like this is the penalty for wrong priorities (5.8 meters (19 feet) home theater viewing distance as priority number one, roof terrace with a drying rack corner balcony, etc.). And I’m sure of this: the rear garage door will be driven through once for every thousand it costs because of the mini excavator, when you sell the house again.

As the final twist of fate, the buyer will make a door to the garage—not where it’s pre-wired “thanks to me,” but a meter or so next to it.
Snowy36 schrieb:
Believe me, if you had bought a finished house you wouldn’t notice any of this and you’d live with it just fine...

A finished house wouldn’t have deviated any more or less from the dream model overall. But it would probably have been built under an older energy-saving regulation, with a little less fuss about the impact of the recessed mailbox on the world climate.
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