ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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Alex85
6 Jul 2018 18:13
Starting from the perspective of the last picture, I would suggest measuring to see if the head of the bed can fit against the wall on the right. So, rotate the bed once. Or would that make it too tight with the desk?

Then the pipe could be fully boxed in and integrated into a kind of bedside table or shelf for the bed.

Laying cables across at this stage shouldn’t be a big problem yet. Just run them along the floor from the existing outlets and up again on the other wall.
11ant6 Jul 2018 18:18
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
This was already discussed regarding exhaust air / recirculation. Exhaust air was strongly discouraged due to the insulation, and in any case, it’s not a good solution when using a controlled mechanical ventilation system.

Yes, but that’s not the point here. The heat from waste air wouldn’t be recovered by the controlled mechanical ventilation system anyway *LOL*, and I wouldn’t even want to perform a blower door test on some of the insulation fanatics out there.
The pipe has to pass through the roof anyway, just as a side note. Honestly, some of this is really just comedy.

My conclusion remains clear: the pipe does not need to run through the nursery. Sorry for the fun of DIY, wrapping the pipe nicely.
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R.Hotzenplotz
6 Jul 2018 19:09
Alex85 schrieb:
So, looking at the perspective from the last picture, I would suggest measuring whether the head of the bed could fit against the right wall. In other words, rotate the bed. Or would that make it too tight with the desk?

That should work. Plus, the desk can still be easily adjusted without disrupting the overall room layout. That might even allow the light switch to stay where it is. The idea was just to have it next to the bed, which it would still be. Only the power outlets might need to be moved over.
11ant schrieb:
My conclusion remains clear: the pipe doesn’t need to pass through the children’s room. Sorry for the DIY hassle of neatly enclosing the pipe.

I’ll bet they’ll give me at least one reason on Monday why they won’t allow it—citing some regulation, building code, or standard. But of course, that would be the best solution. It might look odd facing the street if a ventilation shaft ends up there, but it’s definitely better than the pipe running through the room.
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Pumbaa
6 Jul 2018 19:17
I wouldn’t place too much importance on the furniture layout. The children’s room will be rearranged at some point anyway, because kids have their own ideas about how they want their room to look and where the bed, desk, and wardrobe should go. At that point, they won’t care whether there are electrical outlets or not. – Personal experience with two boys
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R.Hotzenplotz
6 Jul 2018 19:21
Yes, that’s fine. Still, I need to create a sample furnishing plan, and it would be good if the light switch next to the bed stays where it is…..

I don’t think there have been any supporters of the pipe vent here so far, right?

So, either accept the pipe or find another solution for it somehow, like the one suggested by 11ant.
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Bookstar
6 Jul 2018 20:51
Do you mean a Durgo-type air admittance valve? If so, I would definitely recommend it, as it is by far the best solution.