ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.









As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
We have one in the main bathroom but none in the kids’ bathroom. This is only about the kids’ bathroom. The price mentioned would be gross for us.870€ (approx. $920) just for the kids’ bathroom?
Is it completely separate with its own pump?
If it includes a separate pump, I could somewhat accept that. If not, it’s way too expensive.
We were offered circulation for the entire house at 900€ (approx. $950) net. We will not implement it; it’s not cost-effective. Running water beforehand (comfort argument) doesn’t matter to us.
I wouldn’t fuss about the outdoor faucet. 99% of faucets that are by definition not supplying drinking water don’t have any signage, even though they should, in my opinion.
But you just don’t drink from outdoor faucets anyway.
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R.Hotzenplotz6 Jul 2018 00:30Alex85 schrieb:
€870 just for the kids' bathroom? Yes, there is already a circulation line in the master bathroom.
Alex85 schrieb:
Is it completely separate with its own pump?
If there is a separate pump, I could somewhat accept that. If not, it's definitely too expensive. I need to ask about that. They only informed me about the cost for the additional circulation line.
Personally, I consider a recirculation line an absolute necessity for comfort, but having it in the main bathroom is enough. You don’t have to keep it running all day when you’re not at home.
I really don’t have any technical knowledge, but in our bathroom, a Durgo valve was installed for ventilation. Could something like that be a solution for your problem?
I really don’t have any technical knowledge, but in our bathroom, a Durgo valve was installed for ventilation. Could something like that be a solution for your problem?
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R.Hotzenplotz6 Jul 2018 14:25It is not about ventilation in the bathroom but about the pipe venting.
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R.Hotzenplotz6 Jul 2018 15:04So now there are only two options left, and I have to make a decision.
Either the installed pipe is boxed in, and the bed is accordingly moved. However, I think this only makes sense if the wall is boxed in either to the left or below on the plan, all the way to the window. Otherwise, it’s just a bad solution because the bed would partly have a gap next to it. From a technical point of view regarding pipe ventilation, this would be the cleanest solution.

I honestly don’t see any scenario where the bed can be properly placed together with the pipe. Changing the room layout would require extensive electrical work, as switches, sockets, etc., are coordinated accordingly.
The other alternative is the pipe vent in the guest bathroom, which would disappear behind an access panel tile. Technically, however, this would be a less elegant solution than venting the pipe through the roof.
I don’t know what to do. I’ve been going around in circles with this all day.
Does anyone have a creative idea on how to solve the pipe issue in the children’s room? Drywall with a niche, or something like that? Technically, I would feel more comfortable with that, but at the moment the tendency is still towards the pipe vent in the WC, since I don’t see a scenario where drywall construction could solve the children’s room situation with bed placement in relation to the lower window sill cleanly.
This is what the pipe looks like. So even in the best case, it won’t be a small boxed-in area.

Either the installed pipe is boxed in, and the bed is accordingly moved. However, I think this only makes sense if the wall is boxed in either to the left or below on the plan, all the way to the window. Otherwise, it’s just a bad solution because the bed would partly have a gap next to it. From a technical point of view regarding pipe ventilation, this would be the cleanest solution.
I honestly don’t see any scenario where the bed can be properly placed together with the pipe. Changing the room layout would require extensive electrical work, as switches, sockets, etc., are coordinated accordingly.
The other alternative is the pipe vent in the guest bathroom, which would disappear behind an access panel tile. Technically, however, this would be a less elegant solution than venting the pipe through the roof.
I don’t know what to do. I’ve been going around in circles with this all day.
Does anyone have a creative idea on how to solve the pipe issue in the children’s room? Drywall with a niche, or something like that? Technically, I would feel more comfortable with that, but at the moment the tendency is still towards the pipe vent in the WC, since I don’t see a scenario where drywall construction could solve the children’s room situation with bed placement in relation to the lower window sill cleanly.
This is what the pipe looks like. So even in the best case, it won’t be a small boxed-in area.
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