ᐅ Floor Plan Optimization – Semi-Detached House Approximately 150 sqm
Created on: 19 May 2022 16:40
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KleinUndFein
Hello everyone,
I’m new here and would appreciate your ideas. We are planning a 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) semi-detached house and are looking for the optimal floor plan.
Development Plan/Restrictions
The building envelope is used to its full extent.
Builders’ Requirements
- As clever a floor plan as possible
- The house will be occupied by two adults and two children (4 and 6 years old)
- The ground floor and upper floor should be able to be lived in separately (aging in place)
- No overly extravagant or expensive features should be used
- Basement with a technical room is available
- Prefer architectural style and conservative construction methods
- Open kitchen, but more of a kitchen-living area. The “living/media area” should be part of the kitchen-living space
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
- Are there better ways to use the space and are the room sizes suitable for normal use?
- Does the layout suit a family and two living units for the future?
I’m new here and would appreciate your ideas. We are planning a 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) semi-detached house and are looking for the optimal floor plan.
Development Plan/Restrictions
The building envelope is used to its full extent.
Builders’ Requirements
- As clever a floor plan as possible
- The house will be occupied by two adults and two children (4 and 6 years old)
- The ground floor and upper floor should be able to be lived in separately (aging in place)
- No overly extravagant or expensive features should be used
- Basement with a technical room is available
- Prefer architectural style and conservative construction methods
- Open kitchen, but more of a kitchen-living area. The “living/media area” should be part of the kitchen-living space
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
- Are there better ways to use the space and are the room sizes suitable for normal use?
- Does the layout suit a family and two living units for the future?
KleinUndFein schrieb:
I am really upset about the tone used here. I asked a very specific question. Intentionally without much background because that would distract from my actual question. Where the plot is located, where the garden is, how old the architect is — none of that is relevant to my inquiry.
That’s nonsense and the reason for your frustration. You want to quickly discuss a rough idea without any substance, expecting us to waste time and brainpower on it? Okay, here’s an assessment of your sketch:
General:
The ground floor and upper floor dimensions don’t match. So that’s already no good, unless there is a 12cm (5 inches) recess on the ground floor?
There is a basement to build on? Where is the access to it? Is the staircase exactly aligned? What type of roof does the building have? How high are the floor-to-ceiling heights? What does the building permit / planning permission say about this? How thick are the exterior walls and what materials are used, especially regarding energy-saving regulations? The staircase seems disproportionately large.
Ground floor: You bump into a corner right when entering the house. The open-plan kitchen and living area is too small for four people as a main living space. The table blocks the exit to the (conceptual) terrace, if there is one. Sitting there is hardly possible; the chairs near the terrace door are definitely unusable. The pantry is too narrow to install any shelving — a complete waste of space. Please try furnishing the guest room! As a bedroom for later separation (which is nonsense anyway) it is completely unsuitable. The bathroom is too large in proportion. Why is the washing machine there if there is a basement?
Upper floor: The long, dark, narrow hallway is questionable and unattractive. The bedroom is very tight. When you open the closet door, you fall onto the bed. The dressing area only fits one person and requires acrobatics. The drainage for the toilet will probably be complicated.
Also: Where is south? Depending on that, the children’s rooms or the open-plan kitchen/living area might be rather dark.
KleinUndFein schrieb:
I am really saddened by the tone here.And do you know why I am sad? 1. Because some questioners seem to think they can fool us or tell some of us or someone directly something that is not true…. Again, it’s the anonymous forum world hiding behind a screen. They want something, but honesty is not necessary.
2. If an architect designed it and you only traced it with a program, it is very sad that such “architects” are allowed to charge money at all. They tarnish the profession with such an “idea.” And even worse: these houses are then built with the client’s money, and they have to live with these mistakes.
3. If it was your idea, then it makes me sad that you don’t see how some things are paradoxical. You think you can act like a professional and play with an amateur idea in the professional league.
You plan a house; you don’t just line up rooms along a corridor. You take measurements so rooms can actually be furnished to suit their purpose. You don’t put a stairwell into an already very small living room corner, no dining room door opposite the bathroom door, a ground floor bathroom that looks like one from a 1960s agricultural building. Children’s rooms are not only located on the north side, but they also get the 90cm (35 inch) “low” window with an extra-high sill, making sure they get to know the dreariness—while the bedroom upstairs has a 4sqm (43 sq ft) window facing south that practically burns.
The upstairs corridor window is placed arbitrarily, and the corridor leads nowhere. The front door makes furnishing the entrance niche difficult.
And why should a forum or any user who speaks up praise this program drawing and declare it good, if it is not good? Even the dimensions used are not considered carefully, and the ground floor and upper floor are not aligned.
Since you withhold important information, the forum produces no clever ideas, no bright solutions. That’s just how it is… No arms, no cookies, as I said before. Maybe you simply don’t understand it.
ypg schrieb:
No arms, no cookies, did I already mention that.Weren’t you planning to stop using that saying?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
Weren't you planning to stop saying that?“What must be, must be.” 😉(Sometimes this place is really a tragedy… with the floor plans and the so-called architects…
Weeks (well, here just a few days)… months spent putting something on paper that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on… and often defended tooth and nail…) 😎
We’re light years away from smallandfine and clever here.
ypg schrieb:
if an architect planned itNo one here believes that.What I wanted to add: if the entire structure is really built on an existing basement, it must be included in the plans. The first things that come to mind are load-bearing capacity, structural engineering, and access. Based on the previous descriptions, I’m still skeptical about that.
K a t j a schrieb:
One more thing I wanted to add: if the entire structure is really being built on an existing basement, this must definitely be included in the plans.But that is already mentioned on page 1. Unfortunately, the original poster insists on leaving out important plan elements. So there is simply nothing to discuss here.
11ant schrieb:
Weren’t you going to stop using that phrase?Nope!Similar topics