ᐅ Floor Plan Optimization for Urban Villa + Considerations for Land Elevation

Alessandro schrieb:

I don’t understand why 3D views are dismissed as something unusual. There are even members here in the forum who can create them easily. My builder took less than an hour to produce the first 2D and 3D drafts. Maybe we’re talking past each other. I’m not referring to physical 3D models made of cardboard like for architect competitions, but rather 3D computer models...

By now, traditional drawings are the unusual thing. For the younger generation, only color and 3D matter, but the good and experienced architects who are still working, that is, don’t use Blender software but still work with pen and paper. The really good programs cost a lot of money. There is no comparison to the cheap programs with one-click solutions.

Tolentino schrieb:

On one hand, I can confirm that this is not standard practice among construction companies. On the other, I understand and share your opinion. I would have expected that with today’s "drawing software," a 3D view would be generated almost automatically and that it wouldn’t be a problem.

Those “one-click” programs usually don’t even show the appearance accurately down to 10cm (4 inches), because they distort the perspective.

Companies like Viebrockhaus and others build standard homes. Standard or model homes are usually available as show houses. If you want a different window size, you will often be turned away or ignored—they don’t mind that at all. Sure, they will charge well if you deviate from the wall or grid layout of the standard model, but that doesn’t require sitting down with the client for an hour. Client visits are scheduled around special features or selections.

kaho674 schrieb:

For technical draftsmen or architects, 3D models are completely unnecessary. They provide views. What additional value would a 3D model add? I also often can’t make use of the 3D models shown here. Only when I see the 2D plans and floor plans do I get a clear idea and feel for the design.

I can’t make much use of them either. While some here puff up with pride showing a poor-quality 3D model, I sometimes can’t believe during the discussion how anyone can like that (whether it’s badly done or poorly presented). No, it’s not about taste! But I admit: not everyone is naturally able to mentally combine 2D views into a whole. Many need this 3D view. However, it can never be used to judge window sizes or to estimate differences of a few centimeters (inches).

kaho674 schrieb:

It’s different if you can virtually walk through the house in 3D. That has high added value but requires more time, which probably isn’t included in the price.

No, I can do that with my software as well. If you don’t input the right parameters, you get total distortion. I remember someone who created a maze with furniture (a bit of a joke) in their long hallway and posted screenshots here that were completely unrealistic... they thought it was great, but forum members quickly saw the real situation.

Anyway, the matter should be approached with nuance, recognizing a good architect from a bad one, and ultimately trusting them. Then there is no need for 3D staging. For a rough exterior view, like whether the roof is red or black, 3D views can be useful, but the effort and cost are simply too high for that. Why would a client want both colors presented when they already bring 30 printouts telling them what the house should look like?!

The same applies to builders, but you shouldn’t expect architectural artistry from a low-cost general contractor. They install their standard windows because they buy them cheaply and want to avoid special custom work. This is how they keep the price low, which is why most people here choose their builder.

ypg schrieb:

No, I can do that with my software too.

I expressed myself poorly. I meant that this feature is not included in the general contractor’s price. Most software probably includes it nowadays.

Shiny86 schrieb:

It would be great if you could share your opinion on the final floor plan.

Sure, when will it be ready?

Shiny86 schrieb:

Fortunately, I’m completely skipping tiles. The general contractor was lucky.

Oh… what do you use to waterproof your bathroom walls then?

ypg schrieb:

I remember someone here who installed a maze of furniture (little comedy sketches) in his long hallway and posted screenshots, but they were totally unrealistic... he thought it was great, but the forum members here had already seen through it.

I guess you mean @schustrik https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Einliegerwohnung-für-Eltern-210-m-efh-und-80-m-elw.24218/

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11ant schrieb:

Sure, when is it arriving?

Hopefully tomorrow.

11ant schrieb:

I see... what are you using to waterproof your bathroom walls then?

I'm following the "seamless" trend with microcement.

Shiny86 schrieb:

Go with the trend of seamless surfaces using microcement.

Wonderful, fantastic, explore as much new ground as possible for the general contractor, so the expert inspector will at least have a lot of sweat on their forehead.

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11ant schrieb:

I guess you mean @schustrik https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Einliegerwohnung-für-Eltern-210-m-efh-und-80-m-elw.24218/

No, although it’s also a good example as a 2D candidate. I just quickly skimmed through 20/22 pages and it gave me a bit of eye strain.
No, I think it was a bungalow, and the hallway had two bends to the right that weren’t 90 degrees, but included 45-degree wall segments in between... that’s how I remember it. Dum-di-dumm-di-dumdumdum... does that ring a bell?