Hello everyone,
my name is Mike and I’m 30 years old.
After reading through several threads where floor plans were thoroughly analyzed and honestly evaluated, I would appreciate it if some of you could take the time to freely share your thoughts on my floor plan as well.
I am fully aware that I have hardly any idea how to properly create a floor plan and ask for your understanding. As the saying goes: "He always tried his best within his means."
About the plan:
The plot has been purchased. Construction is planned to start at the end of next year.
We will get advice from an architect at the end of this year, but my fiancée and I want to use the time we have wisely and have a floor plan as early as possible that fully satisfies us.
Thank you in advance!
Requirements and restrictions:
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100m² (13,300 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: surrounding buildings, almost anything possible
Floor space index: same as above
Building envelope, building line and boundary: not known
Border development: included in floor plan
Number of parking spaces: 1 carport, 1 garage
Number of stories: 1
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: modern
Orientation: terrace facing south/west
Maximum heights/limits: not known
Additional requirements: none
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, hipped roof, bungalow
Basement, stories: none, 1
Number of residents, ages: 2 ½; 28, 30, 1 (children)
Space needed on ground floor: 163m² (1,755 sq ft)
Office: none
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-6
Open or closed architecture: not known
Traditional or modern build: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both yes
Number of dining seats: 4 (8 when table is placed in the room and extended)
Fireplace: hydronic (water-heated)
Music/surround sound wall: 5.1 surround (difficult with this floor plan, open to ideas)
Balcony, roof terrace: none
Garage, carport: 1, 1
Utility garden, greenhouse: none
Other wishes/special features/daily routine: shift work
House Design
Origin of the plan:
- Planner from a construction company: template
- Architect: not yet
- DIY from you: current floor plan
What do you like most? Large living room and a bedroom acoustically separated from the hallway
What do you dislike?
Price estimate from architect/planner: not yet available
Personal price limit for house including fixtures and fittings: approx. €250,000
Preferred heating technology: air or ground source heat pump (water-based)
If you had to give up, which details or features
- could you give up: not known
- could you not give up: not known
my name is Mike and I’m 30 years old.
After reading through several threads where floor plans were thoroughly analyzed and honestly evaluated, I would appreciate it if some of you could take the time to freely share your thoughts on my floor plan as well.
I am fully aware that I have hardly any idea how to properly create a floor plan and ask for your understanding. As the saying goes: "He always tried his best within his means."
About the plan:
The plot has been purchased. Construction is planned to start at the end of next year.
We will get advice from an architect at the end of this year, but my fiancée and I want to use the time we have wisely and have a floor plan as early as possible that fully satisfies us.
Thank you in advance!
Requirements and restrictions:
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100m² (13,300 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: surrounding buildings, almost anything possible
Floor space index: same as above
Building envelope, building line and boundary: not known
Border development: included in floor plan
Number of parking spaces: 1 carport, 1 garage
Number of stories: 1
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: modern
Orientation: terrace facing south/west
Maximum heights/limits: not known
Additional requirements: none
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, hipped roof, bungalow
Basement, stories: none, 1
Number of residents, ages: 2 ½; 28, 30, 1 (children)
Space needed on ground floor: 163m² (1,755 sq ft)
Office: none
Number of overnight guests per year: 2-6
Open or closed architecture: not known
Traditional or modern build: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both yes
Number of dining seats: 4 (8 when table is placed in the room and extended)
Fireplace: hydronic (water-heated)
Music/surround sound wall: 5.1 surround (difficult with this floor plan, open to ideas)
Balcony, roof terrace: none
Garage, carport: 1, 1
Utility garden, greenhouse: none
Other wishes/special features/daily routine: shift work
House Design
Origin of the plan:
- Planner from a construction company: template
- Architect: not yet
- DIY from you: current floor plan
What do you like most? Large living room and a bedroom acoustically separated from the hallway
What do you dislike?
Price estimate from architect/planner: not yet available
Personal price limit for house including fixtures and fittings: approx. €250,000
Preferred heating technology: air or ground source heat pump (water-based)
If you had to give up, which details or features
- could you give up: not known
- could you not give up: not known
ypg schrieb:
These designs created with free planning software should only be considered rough sketches anyway You are right. However, this can result in rooms—and thus the entire floor plan—not functioning properly. Take the children's bathroom as an example. With built-in installations on three sides, the usable floor area can decrease from 4.98 m² (54 sq ft) to under 4 m² (43 sq ft) at worst.
Also, the 30 cm (12 inches) exterior walls were explicitly noted.
sommer2017 schrieb:
That was helpful. Thanks.Thank you. We will probably not stick with this floor plan, but this is what we are currently discussing.
sommer2017 schrieb:
Connections to the house are better placed in the utility room. I have also changed that.Have you considered swapping the carport and garage? The utility room has two doors and one window. That's a lot of space taken up by technical installations. Perhaps reconsider the front window.
sommer2017 schrieb:
Could you please explain that further?
Is it for cost reasons? Because of a downdraft cooker hood? (The hood is supposed to rise from the countertop) That’s just a trend like the townhouse style. Either you plan it properly, or you leave it out. What could possibly fit on a 1.20 meter x 0.8 meter (4 ft x 2.6 ft) island? Surely not a cooktop? Just so the front row at the dining table can watch live? Sure, there are great downdraft solutions… for example, Bora. A nice gadget.
sommer2017 schrieb:
Yup.You can forget the pantry. What would you put there that wouldn’t fit in a kitchen cabinet? The kitchen is big enough to plan something functional, and without an island, the dining area gets more circulation space.
sommer2017 schrieb:
Am I missing something? Why should a kid’s bathroom (for one child) be larger? There’s even room for a cabinet/dresser. Although it sounds like I don’t want to give my child a little luxury, if they want luxury later, they are more than welcome to use our bathroom.Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but for me, a BATHroom is about bathing. Anything under 5 square meters (54 square feet) with just a toilet and shower is more of a guest toilet.
Why so many corners and angles, especially in the dressing room? Surely these could be straightened out. I find a window in the dressing room problematic; a large mirror could be more useful there.
sommer2017 schrieb:
Here’s a screenshot attached. (I actually meant to post this back in post #4 oops)
The original furniture dimensions are marked, showing how much space remains.
Do you think this is sufficient?If you’re planning from the start and furnishing with something like Pax, then do it properly to avoid creating extra corners.
Best regards and have a nice evening
Is the plot located in the second row because of the long access driveway?
Regarding the house layout... the children's bedroom and bathroom are inconveniently positioned relative to each other. The child always has to pass by the living room entrance and front door to reach the bathroom. The child’s room faces northeast.
Parents... only a 200 cm (79 inches) Pax wardrobe and 300 cm (118 inches) Malm dressers fit, so they place a double bed in a space of over 14 m² (150 sq ft).
I see the wall thicknesses the same way as @Musketier... it should be planned realistically.
Cooking island dimensions (about 140 x 80 cm (55 x 31 inches))... well, I’m not so sure. I also consider the pantry to be relatively unnecessary. Utility room... is this direct access to the garage really useful?
Positive... terrace access from the kitchen.
Regarding the house layout... the children's bedroom and bathroom are inconveniently positioned relative to each other. The child always has to pass by the living room entrance and front door to reach the bathroom. The child’s room faces northeast.
Parents... only a 200 cm (79 inches) Pax wardrobe and 300 cm (118 inches) Malm dressers fit, so they place a double bed in a space of over 14 m² (150 sq ft).
I see the wall thicknesses the same way as @Musketier... it should be planned realistically.
Cooking island dimensions (about 140 x 80 cm (55 x 31 inches))... well, I’m not so sure. I also consider the pantry to be relatively unnecessary. Utility room... is this direct access to the garage really useful?
Positive... terrace access from the kitchen.
sommer201717 Jun 2016 15:16Thank you very much for the many truly helpful contributions!
Some striking issues have been raised (wall thickness, pre-installation walls, etc.).
I will take some time in the next few days to make a few changes and present the result here again.
In advance:
Yes, second row.
Utility room to garage
In my idea, I would drive into the garage every day and then go through the utility room to the hallway. I imagine this would be especially practical in bad weather (dry shoes when it snows, etc.). Is this unrealistic?
Walk-in closet
Since we also need to sleep during the day and a bedroom directly adjacent to the hallway is not very quiet / you hear every noise from the hallway, the walk-in closet as a buffer is a must for us.
Two meters of Pax + three meters of Malm (4 drawers) are currently completely sufficient for us. These pieces of furniture will be taken along.
The window will be removed.
Pantry
I wouldn’t know where else to store vacuum cleaner, broom, ironing board (tall vertical items) out of sight. The utility room will be even smaller in the new draft, so there will be less space there.
I would no longer give the pantry a normal door but design it like a built-in closet from the outside. I also wouldn’t know what to do with the freed living space (except put a plant there; plants always work ).
Kitchen island
We will turn it into a work island. We like the idea that more than two people can work in the kitchen comfortably (with friends).
Children’s room
Northeast orientation, what disadvantages are there besides being a bit darker?
I also can’t think of a way to swap the children’s room with the guest room, for example, without completely rearranging the entire floor plan…
Bedroom
Do long cable runs really make that much of a difference? Financially? Or in what way?
Best regards
Some striking issues have been raised (wall thickness, pre-installation walls, etc.).
I will take some time in the next few days to make a few changes and present the result here again.
In advance:
Yes, second row.
Utility room to garage
In my idea, I would drive into the garage every day and then go through the utility room to the hallway. I imagine this would be especially practical in bad weather (dry shoes when it snows, etc.). Is this unrealistic?
Walk-in closet
Since we also need to sleep during the day and a bedroom directly adjacent to the hallway is not very quiet / you hear every noise from the hallway, the walk-in closet as a buffer is a must for us.
Two meters of Pax + three meters of Malm (4 drawers) are currently completely sufficient for us. These pieces of furniture will be taken along.
The window will be removed.
Pantry
I wouldn’t know where else to store vacuum cleaner, broom, ironing board (tall vertical items) out of sight. The utility room will be even smaller in the new draft, so there will be less space there.
I would no longer give the pantry a normal door but design it like a built-in closet from the outside. I also wouldn’t know what to do with the freed living space (except put a plant there; plants always work ).
Kitchen island
We will turn it into a work island. We like the idea that more than two people can work in the kitchen comfortably (with friends).
Children’s room
Northeast orientation, what disadvantages are there besides being a bit darker?
I also can’t think of a way to swap the children’s room with the guest room, for example, without completely rearranging the entire floor plan…
Bedroom
Do long cable runs really make that much of a difference? Financially? Or in what way?
Best regards
sommer2017 schrieb:
Walk-in closet
Since we also need to sleep during the day and a bedroom located directly off the hallway is not very quiet—you can hear every noise from the corridor—the walk-in closet as a buffer is a must for us.
A 2m (6.5 ft) Pax plus a 3m (9.8 ft) Malm dresser (4 drawers) are more than enough for us currently. These pieces of furniture will be taken along.
The window will be removed. The reasons are understandable, but I think this can be solved better than with this narrow walk-through corridor.
sommer2017 schrieb:
Children’s room
Northeast orientation—what disadvantages are there besides it being somewhat darker?
I also can’t think of a way to swap the children’s room, for example, with the guest room without completely changing the whole floor plan... In my opinion, it’s better to have a darker bedroom than a dark children’s room.
Partly because of the temperatures, and also because children’s rooms are usually places to spend time rather than just sleep.
sommer2017 schrieb:
Do long pipe runs have such a big impact? Financially? Or in what way? If you don’t implement other solutions, it can feel like it takes ages for hot water to arrive. Our pipe runs are much shorter by far, and yet it still annoys me. I have become a bit spoiled by our last apartment, where the pipe runs from the boiler to the taps were very short.
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