ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, 2 stories with basement, approximately 190 m² living space, plot size approximately 440 m²
Created on: 11 Oct 2021 12:39
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Tortuga123
Hello everyone,
we are still in the planning phase of our single-family house and have been experimenting a bit with a freeware floor plan program. We would like to get your feedback.
But first, the questionnaire:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 440m² (4,736 sq ft)
Slope: approx. 2m (6.6 ft) over 20m (66 ft) to the east and approx. 2m (6.6 ft) over 20m (66 ft) to the south
Floor area ratio: no development plan available, building according to §34 Baugesetzbuch (German federal building code), so floor area ratio 0.4
Floor space index: see above: 1.2
Buildable area boundaries: north (toward street): approx. 2m (6.6 ft), west: 3m (10 ft), south: 3m (10 ft), east: 6m (20 ft) to the immediately adjacent neighbor’s building, otherwise 3m (10 ft)
Edge development: yes, neighbor to the east
Parking spaces: 2 in garage and 2 in front of garage for guests
Stories: 2 full floors
Roof type: hipped roof (all types are permitted)
Architectural style: modern (all styles are permitted)
Orientation: garden facing south
Maximum heights/limits: same as neighboring buildings, tall enough
Other requirements: none
Street: very narrow, dead-end
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: urban villa with hipped or gabled roof, with at least 2.00m (6.6 ft) knee wall height
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, and upper floor
Number of occupants, age: currently 2, planned 4
Space requirement ground floor, upper floor: about 60-70 m² (650-750 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Both, but mostly private use
Overnight guests per year: a few, possibly longer stays in a few years
Open or closed layout: open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen with counter or island
Number of dining places: 4-6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: standard TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with one door
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: standard
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why some things are wanted or not: guest room and guest bathroom in basement, laundry room on the upper floor
House design
Who planned it: DIY
What do you especially like? Why?: upper floor bathroom and bedroom facing the garden (near the forest edge), separate entrance area with cloakroom so cats can’t run outside the front door, laundry room on the upper floor
What do you dislike? Why?: bathrooms are not stacked vertically, so the drains are under the living room, but we accept that
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with or without ventilation system
If you had to give up something, which features or extensions
- can you give up: basically nothing 🙂
Why did the design turn out this way?
We sketched out our specific wishes and then made sure they fit within the built-up space.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? I hope it will be comfortable to live in.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How do you like the floor plan? I’m happy to explain our thinking behind particular features if you have questions.
Would the drains under the living room be very noticeable? I think they might be hidden with furniture (possibly DIY). Those black squares in the drawings indicate drains or ventilation shafts.
I plan to present this design to various general contractors. An architect is not an option for various reasons. Please avoid discussions about why we chose general contractors over an architect.
Due to the neighbor’s building on the boundary and the building authority’s instruction that we keep 6m (20 ft) distance from their house wall, we want to place the garage adjacent to their wall (with appropriate foundations, of course, so no pressure is exerted on their basement wall). The garage is about 1m (3.3 ft) lower than the house to reduce the slope from the street to the garage. That’s why I integrated this corner into the ground floor and basement so one can walk down a few steps from the front door to the garage. Possibly, a passage to the garage could be made at the stairs if the height levels work out. The staircase will be a half-landing staircase, but the program cannot display this. From the front door to the street, no steps are necessary; a ramp should suffice.
In the basement, the utility room and hobby room will have light wells, and the guest room/office and bathroom will have a light court. Guest room and office can be combined; it only needs space for a bed, a wardrobe, and a desk.
We look forward to your suggestions!
Good luck Tortuga123
we are still in the planning phase of our single-family house and have been experimenting a bit with a freeware floor plan program. We would like to get your feedback.
But first, the questionnaire:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 440m² (4,736 sq ft)
Slope: approx. 2m (6.6 ft) over 20m (66 ft) to the east and approx. 2m (6.6 ft) over 20m (66 ft) to the south
Floor area ratio: no development plan available, building according to §34 Baugesetzbuch (German federal building code), so floor area ratio 0.4
Floor space index: see above: 1.2
Buildable area boundaries: north (toward street): approx. 2m (6.6 ft), west: 3m (10 ft), south: 3m (10 ft), east: 6m (20 ft) to the immediately adjacent neighbor’s building, otherwise 3m (10 ft)
Edge development: yes, neighbor to the east
Parking spaces: 2 in garage and 2 in front of garage for guests
Stories: 2 full floors
Roof type: hipped roof (all types are permitted)
Architectural style: modern (all styles are permitted)
Orientation: garden facing south
Maximum heights/limits: same as neighboring buildings, tall enough
Other requirements: none
Street: very narrow, dead-end
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: urban villa with hipped or gabled roof, with at least 2.00m (6.6 ft) knee wall height
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, and upper floor
Number of occupants, age: currently 2, planned 4
Space requirement ground floor, upper floor: about 60-70 m² (650-750 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Both, but mostly private use
Overnight guests per year: a few, possibly longer stays in a few years
Open or closed layout: open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen with counter or island
Number of dining places: 4-6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: standard TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with one door
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: standard
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why some things are wanted or not: guest room and guest bathroom in basement, laundry room on the upper floor
House design
Who planned it: DIY
What do you especially like? Why?: upper floor bathroom and bedroom facing the garden (near the forest edge), separate entrance area with cloakroom so cats can’t run outside the front door, laundry room on the upper floor
What do you dislike? Why?: bathrooms are not stacked vertically, so the drains are under the living room, but we accept that
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with or without ventilation system
If you had to give up something, which features or extensions
- can you give up: basically nothing 🙂
Why did the design turn out this way?
We sketched out our specific wishes and then made sure they fit within the built-up space.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? I hope it will be comfortable to live in.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How do you like the floor plan? I’m happy to explain our thinking behind particular features if you have questions.
Would the drains under the living room be very noticeable? I think they might be hidden with furniture (possibly DIY). Those black squares in the drawings indicate drains or ventilation shafts.
I plan to present this design to various general contractors. An architect is not an option for various reasons. Please avoid discussions about why we chose general contractors over an architect.
Due to the neighbor’s building on the boundary and the building authority’s instruction that we keep 6m (20 ft) distance from their house wall, we want to place the garage adjacent to their wall (with appropriate foundations, of course, so no pressure is exerted on their basement wall). The garage is about 1m (3.3 ft) lower than the house to reduce the slope from the street to the garage. That’s why I integrated this corner into the ground floor and basement so one can walk down a few steps from the front door to the garage. Possibly, a passage to the garage could be made at the stairs if the height levels work out. The staircase will be a half-landing staircase, but the program cannot display this. From the front door to the street, no steps are necessary; a ramp should suffice.
In the basement, the utility room and hobby room will have light wells, and the guest room/office and bathroom will have a light court. Guest room and office can be combined; it only needs space for a bed, a wardrobe, and a desk.
We look forward to your suggestions!
Good luck Tortuga123
Tortuga123 schrieb:
enclosed space including a basement with living area for a fixed price of €346,000 Basement with living area? 😱
That amounts to just over €1,800 per square meter, which corresponds to the construction costs from 2014 / 2015.
Tortuga123 schrieb:
which according to the scope of work already requires a high standard from the general contractor That is contradictory. Sorry.
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Tortuga12311 Oct 2021 18:01Here are a few more pictures of the plot.
All the concrete foundations and slabs will be removed. However, we will probably keep the slabs and similar areas temporarily as a site setup area. The fence and the wall along the street will be removed beforehand, so the plot’s frontage will ultimately be at the same level as the street along its entire length.
It’s hard to see, but approximately in the middle, the plot slopes down more steeply along the street. Above that point, the incline is not as steep.
The wall at the street is 90cm (35 inches) high at the lower corner of the plot.
All the concrete foundations and slabs will be removed. However, we will probably keep the slabs and similar areas temporarily as a site setup area. The fence and the wall along the street will be removed beforehand, so the plot’s frontage will ultimately be at the same level as the street along its entire length.
It’s hard to see, but approximately in the middle, the plot slopes down more steeply along the street. Above that point, the incline is not as steep.
The wall at the street is 90cm (35 inches) high at the lower corner of the plot.
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Tortuga12311 Oct 2021 18:06@ypg: Well, that’s the price he calculated for us. It’s actually good for us if he’s apparently using 2015 prices 😀
According to the construction specification, all basement rooms have a rough structural height of 2.635m (8 ft 8 in), with electrical wiring installed under the plaster, underfloor heating, and so on. Of course, if we now want larger windows, ventilation systems, and all that due to basement living requirements, that will naturally come with an additional cost. But that will probably be more like 10,000 to 20,000, not 100,000.
According to the construction specification, all basement rooms have a rough structural height of 2.635m (8 ft 8 in), with electrical wiring installed under the plaster, underfloor heating, and so on. Of course, if we now want larger windows, ventilation systems, and all that due to basement living requirements, that will naturally come with an additional cost. But that will probably be more like 10,000 to 20,000, not 100,000.
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Billyfred11 Oct 2021 18:22For 190m² (2045 sq ft), I definitely think a second bathroom is missing (for 4 people). But beyond that, I don’t find the layout particularly smart. The utility room is hardly usable as a narrow space: where would you hang laundry (just one spot)? There are only two spots like this. The professionals will surely find even more issues. When evaluating the floor plan, the main thing missing is measurements (for example, how wide is the "cloakroom"/vestibule? I get the feeling that it is not possible to create a practical cloakroom for 4 people there.
Regarding the budget: ypg hinted at it, I’ll say it clearly: forget it! 1800€/m² (167.2 USD/sq ft) is not achievable—in any standard. The attitude here is wrong: (paraphrased) "It’s good for us if it’s so cheap/inexpensive (watch out)." No, it’s not, because that price is a fantasy. Reality will catch up with you. In my humble opinion, you should not plan below 2500€/m² (231.9 USD/sq ft) plus additional construction costs. The general contractor is offering you a nice 1800€/m² (167.2 USD/sq ft) price right now (and even "turnkey"—again, watch out!), but the real numbers are still to come.
You don’t want a fundamental discussion about architect/GC/project manager/building contractor, but one thing is certain: planning a usable floor plan requires a professional. Whether that person comes from the GC or is an independent architect does not matter.
Regarding the budget: ypg hinted at it, I’ll say it clearly: forget it! 1800€/m² (167.2 USD/sq ft) is not achievable—in any standard. The attitude here is wrong: (paraphrased) "It’s good for us if it’s so cheap/inexpensive (watch out)." No, it’s not, because that price is a fantasy. Reality will catch up with you. In my humble opinion, you should not plan below 2500€/m² (231.9 USD/sq ft) plus additional construction costs. The general contractor is offering you a nice 1800€/m² (167.2 USD/sq ft) price right now (and even "turnkey"—again, watch out!), but the real numbers are still to come.
You don’t want a fundamental discussion about architect/GC/project manager/building contractor, but one thing is certain: planning a usable floor plan requires a professional. Whether that person comes from the GC or is an independent architect does not matter.
Bathrooms do not have to be stacked, but placing a bathroom above the dining area should be avoided.
Children’s rooms are better located on the south side rather than the north.
A living room width of 3.50 m (11.5 ft), many narrow rooms, and multiple entrance areas with awkward corner angles are not inviting.
With a staircase opening width of 2 meters (6.6 ft), the stair width comes to about 75 cm (30 inches).
Many niches are poorly usable, including the hallway.
The windows in the living area are quite narrow.
Children’s rooms are better located on the south side rather than the north.
A living room width of 3.50 m (11.5 ft), many narrow rooms, and multiple entrance areas with awkward corner angles are not inviting.
With a staircase opening width of 2 meters (6.6 ft), the stair width comes to about 75 cm (30 inches).
Many niches are poorly usable, including the hallway.
The windows in the living area are quite narrow.
Tortuga123 schrieb:
Well, that’s the price he calculated for us.I assume he didn’t do a detailed calculation, but just an estimate?Similar topics