Hello,
I am sharing the floor plan as we have developed it. Perhaps there are some suggestions?
The dimensions are interior room sizes, with a wall thickness of 10 cm (4 inches) assumed. Depending on the actual wall thickness, adjustments will be necessary.
Plot size: 1200 sqm (12,917 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio / plot ratio: unknown, but not important
Building permit / planning permission, building line and boundary: there is no development plan; the new house will stand where our current house is (only the distance to the neighbor must be increased to 3 m (10 feet)), which according to the responsible building authority is no problem
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: garages already exist and will remain
Number of floors: bungalow, single story
Roof type: gable or hip roof
Style?
Orientation: roof facing east-west
Other constraints: the plot is only about 16 m (52 feet) wide, so the house must not be wider than about 10 m (33 feet) in this direction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: bungalow, preferably gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, only 1 floor, storage room in the attic
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, 55 and 58
Space needs on the ground floor: about 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office: no
Overnight guests per year: 2 grandchildren occasionally, father occasionally
Open or closed layout?
Conservative or modern construction: rather conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen
Number of dining places: 4
Fireplace: yes, definitely
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: already existing
Utility garden, greenhouse: garden already established
House design
Designed by:
- Do-It-Yourself, created based on various templates
What do you like most? Why?: large window front on the south side with direct access to the garden
What do you not like? Why?
- Corner in the hallway between utility room and bedroom, but the hallway should remain large to avoid bumping into each other and to have enough space for motorbike gear,
- I would prefer the fireplace positioned more in the corner between kitchen and living area, but that conflicts with neighbor distance regulations and emissions protection
Price estimate according to architect/planner: initial offers are around €190,000 for about 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft), but changes are still needed
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: should not exceed €200,000 plus additional construction costs; equipment is already taken care of
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler, since gas supply is already connected
If you had to give up anything, which details/expansions
- Could you give up: nothing
- Cannot give up: underfloor heating, large window front, fireplace
Why did the design turn out as it is?
All wishes were implemented as far as possible
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Is there anything that doesn’t work at all? Any room for improvement? What would you do differently? Where could it be optimized?
I am sharing the floor plan as we have developed it. Perhaps there are some suggestions?
The dimensions are interior room sizes, with a wall thickness of 10 cm (4 inches) assumed. Depending on the actual wall thickness, adjustments will be necessary.
Plot size: 1200 sqm (12,917 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio / plot ratio: unknown, but not important
Building permit / planning permission, building line and boundary: there is no development plan; the new house will stand where our current house is (only the distance to the neighbor must be increased to 3 m (10 feet)), which according to the responsible building authority is no problem
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: garages already exist and will remain
Number of floors: bungalow, single story
Roof type: gable or hip roof
Style?
Orientation: roof facing east-west
Other constraints: the plot is only about 16 m (52 feet) wide, so the house must not be wider than about 10 m (33 feet) in this direction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: bungalow, preferably gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, only 1 floor, storage room in the attic
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, 55 and 58
Space needs on the ground floor: about 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office: no
Overnight guests per year: 2 grandchildren occasionally, father occasionally
Open or closed layout?
Conservative or modern construction: rather conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen
Number of dining places: 4
Fireplace: yes, definitely
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: already existing
Utility garden, greenhouse: garden already established
House design
Designed by:
- Do-It-Yourself, created based on various templates
What do you like most? Why?: large window front on the south side with direct access to the garden
What do you not like? Why?
- Corner in the hallway between utility room and bedroom, but the hallway should remain large to avoid bumping into each other and to have enough space for motorbike gear,
- I would prefer the fireplace positioned more in the corner between kitchen and living area, but that conflicts with neighbor distance regulations and emissions protection
Price estimate according to architect/planner: initial offers are around €190,000 for about 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft), but changes are still needed
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: should not exceed €200,000 plus additional construction costs; equipment is already taken care of
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler, since gas supply is already connected
If you had to give up anything, which details/expansions
- Could you give up: nothing
- Cannot give up: underfloor heating, large window front, fireplace
Why did the design turn out as it is?
All wishes were implemented as far as possible
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Is there anything that doesn’t work at all? Any room for improvement? What would you do differently? Where could it be optimized?
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pagoni202016 Dec 2020 13:05motorradsilke schrieb:
I don’t want to walk through the bedroom to get to the bathroom ...but precisely because of that, it becomes truly "private," as the guest has their own shower/toilet located separately.
motorradsilke schrieb:
Your entry vestibule would feel too narrow to me as a hallway Bigger is definitely better, but it is valuable living space that comes at a high cost. Considering that, and your mentioned budget, the question will be where to save space. I think that for @Nida35a, the decision is individual due to grandchildren, visitors, etc., so I find it well planned. The open living area with the gallery and the full width opening to the terrace appeals to me, and I find the layout quite modern. Of course, furnishing is a matter of personal taste. One thing to watch out for is ensuring natural daylight reaches the hallway area. Maybe nida also has another photo of the terrace view for reference.
motorradsilke schrieb:
and you can stay dry when going from the car into the house.The topic of the utility room door in a utility room that is too small and hallway planning with the front door, but the idea of "I want to enter through the utility room to stay dry" seems to come up here almost every week.
Consider,
- how often it actually rains when you want to leave the house or come home.
- why you would design a large hallway with a nice front door, only to then have to go through a utility/technical room yourself.
- what the utility room, which here is also supposed to serve as a laundry room, must and should be used for, e.g. washing clothes, and how the practicalities of drying/storing laundry fit into the flow of a "second alternative hallway."
I actually have a door (patio door) in the utility room. It is now blocked by a vacuum cleaner, mop bucket, and a box of old paper, because although storage space is available elsewhere, the "intermediate storage" of the recycling bag, glass, and cardboard does not fit into the everyday routine in a way that you would want to go outside or upstairs every time.
In your case, laundry also needs to be dried (small loads), which makes it unpleasant to track dirt with shoes across the floor.
motorradsilke schrieb:
I don’t want to have to walk through the living room just to get to the other rooms.I understand that. My example was only intended to reflect and zone private versus open areas — I explicitly wrote about modifying, which is equivalent to more detailed planning. For example, you could then plan the kitchen again on the west side.
If I were you, I would consider not having to bypass the guest area as currently planned. A utility room placed closer to the kitchen is more practical for everyday use and supports the idea of zoning.
Should a fixed staircase lead upstairs for you? I would plan it at least 70 cm (28 inches), preferably 80 cm (31 inches) wide to safely carry a standard box. So in a draft plan, allocate 80 cm (31 inches) if you include the handrail and plaster finishes.
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pagoni202016 Dec 2020 14:16ypg schrieb:
“I want to enter through the utility room so I can stay dry” is something that seems to come up here almost every week.ypg schrieb:
Consider how often it actually rains when you want to leave the house or come back home.I see it the same way; for every plan, you can imagine a “worst-case scenario” that then supposedly justifies the respective measure. I lived very comfortably in a house without a garage or carport for 30 years because the space was converted into an office. I don’t recall any such “worst-case scenario.”motorradsilke schrieb:
I don’t want to have to walk through the living room to get to the other rooms.Hmm... I actually like that the bedroom is located beyond the living room, because it keeps it away from the busier hallway. That kind of “pass through” doesn’t usually happen – I think you might be looking at it a bit too negatively. In a two-person household, the bedroom door opens from the living area... which I findYou do have your wishes.
Start by sketching roughly with a pencil and graph paper, then put it aside and begin another draft.
Bring it back out again, revise and optimize—it’s a process your mind has to work through.
On the way to the architect, we wanted 4 rooms, a hipped roof, and a conservatory; we came back with 3 rooms, a gable roof with a kink, the kitchen door and utility room door opening outwards. In summer, we hardly use the front door. And hosting 3 times 14 guests a year only requires extending the table. Make your house
according to your habits and wishes.
Start by sketching roughly with a pencil and graph paper, then put it aside and begin another draft.
Bring it back out again, revise and optimize—it’s a process your mind has to work through.
On the way to the architect, we wanted 4 rooms, a hipped roof, and a conservatory; we came back with 3 rooms, a gable roof with a kink, the kitchen door and utility room door opening outwards. In summer, we hardly use the front door. And hosting 3 times 14 guests a year only requires extending the table. Make your house
according to your habits and wishes.
pagoni2020 schrieb:
I see it the same way; for every project, you can present a "worst-case scenario" that then "justifies" the respective measure. I lived very well in a house without a garage/carport for 30 years because it was converted into an office.
I don’t remember any such "worst-case scenario." After I had a terraced house with a carport 200 meters (about 220 yards) away and then preferred to park on the street directly in front of my property, I mostly just got a bit wet from brushing past a wet bush. Since joining this forum, and as this topic keeps coming up, I kept a tally for several years of how often it actually rained when I came home or left the house (I go in and out daily). (As a moderator, you have certain duties 😉 ) It was single-digit numbers every year. Only this year did I reach 12 times. That sounds like a lot? Well… I didn’t even really get wet because it is only 8 meters (about 26 feet) from the carport to the front door, even though I have to walk westward (the weather-facing side).
Here, the house itself already blocks the weather side from rain. I’d say: if it fits, go for it, but don’t let this idea negatively dominate your daily routine, especially if you don’t want to build 160 square meters (roughly 1,720 square feet).
pagoni2020 schrieb:
The bedroom door opens off the living area in a two-person household. Yes, that is actually a good layout for a two-person household.
Nida35a schrieb:
Sketch out some ideas first with pencil and graph paper, Yes, first on paper. With a digital tool, you get stuck because it’s too much effort to delete what you don’t want. And you need to mentally run through possible daily routines and everyday habits again and again.
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