ᐅ Floor plan of a 1.5-story house with a captain’s gable, covering just under 200 square meters
Created on: 18 Jul 2021 18:13
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blubbernase
hi, we have been going back and forth with the work and wanted to get your opinion
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 673 m² (7239 ft²)
Slope: 3.5% incline from one side to the other
Floor area ratio: 0.2 (Floor area ratio I: 134.6 m² (1450 ft²), Floor area ratio II: 201.9 m² (2172 ft²))
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see picture (the side lines mark the property borders)
Edge development: new residential area, detached houses
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: max 1 full story
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: captain’s house
Orientation: ridge runs northwest to southeast
Maximum heights/limits: eaves height 4.5 m (15 ft), ridge height 9 m (30 ft), reference point in development plan nearly 1 meter (3 ft) above plot level, brick facing required, dormers allowed on only 50% of the eaves length
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, stories: partial unheated basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 34 m, 33 f, 3 m, 4 f + 1 planned
Space needs on the ground floor: 1 office, 1 office/guest room, kitchen with dining area, living room, bathroom with shower, entry hall
Space needs on the upper floor: 1 bedroom, 3 children's rooms, 1 full bathroom, 1 toilet with washer/dryer
Office: 100% home office
Overnight guests per year: 1 per month, mother-in-law
Conservative or modern construction: practical?
Kitchen: kitchen with dining area, table to be inside the kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one car and bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: maybe later
House Design
Ground floor: floor area 107.5 m² (1156 ft²) (including stairs)
Upper floor: floor area 101.2 m² (1090 ft²) (including stairs)
Basement: approx. 70 m² (753 ft²)
Designer: designed by ourselves using Sweet Home 3D
Basically, we based the exterior dimensions on the Whiteline promotional house "Kiefernallee" from Gussek Haus and extended it about 50 cm (20 inches) longer on the left side of the gable. We have been working with Gussek Haus for a while. Initially, we had a floor plan with 4 gables and a longer house, but we discarded it due to complexity. The upper-floor layout is still based on that promotional house, but the ground floor has changed quite a bit.
What do you particularly like? When entering the house, you’re not immediately in the living room.
Price estimate according to the architect/planner: base house approx. 450,000 € (including move-in ready) + 60,000 €
Personal price limit for the house including basement: 550,000 € + additional costs and fittings
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with indoor unit
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions?
- You could give up: basically nothing 😀
- You could not give up: a few extra square meters here and there
Why did the design turn out this way?
For example: it fits well on the plot, although the terrace is quite small.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Will the long hallway annoy us despite being reasonably wide?
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 673 m² (7239 ft²)
Slope: 3.5% incline from one side to the other
Floor area ratio: 0.2 (Floor area ratio I: 134.6 m² (1450 ft²), Floor area ratio II: 201.9 m² (2172 ft²))
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see picture (the side lines mark the property borders)
Edge development: new residential area, detached houses
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: max 1 full story
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: captain’s house
Orientation: ridge runs northwest to southeast
Maximum heights/limits: eaves height 4.5 m (15 ft), ridge height 9 m (30 ft), reference point in development plan nearly 1 meter (3 ft) above plot level, brick facing required, dormers allowed on only 50% of the eaves length
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, stories: partial unheated basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 34 m, 33 f, 3 m, 4 f + 1 planned
Space needs on the ground floor: 1 office, 1 office/guest room, kitchen with dining area, living room, bathroom with shower, entry hall
Space needs on the upper floor: 1 bedroom, 3 children's rooms, 1 full bathroom, 1 toilet with washer/dryer
Office: 100% home office
Overnight guests per year: 1 per month, mother-in-law
Conservative or modern construction: practical?
Kitchen: kitchen with dining area, table to be inside the kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one car and bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: maybe later
House Design
Ground floor: floor area 107.5 m² (1156 ft²) (including stairs)
Upper floor: floor area 101.2 m² (1090 ft²) (including stairs)
Basement: approx. 70 m² (753 ft²)
Designer: designed by ourselves using Sweet Home 3D
Basically, we based the exterior dimensions on the Whiteline promotional house "Kiefernallee" from Gussek Haus and extended it about 50 cm (20 inches) longer on the left side of the gable. We have been working with Gussek Haus for a while. Initially, we had a floor plan with 4 gables and a longer house, but we discarded it due to complexity. The upper-floor layout is still based on that promotional house, but the ground floor has changed quite a bit.
What do you particularly like? When entering the house, you’re not immediately in the living room.
Price estimate according to the architect/planner: base house approx. 450,000 € (including move-in ready) + 60,000 €
Personal price limit for the house including basement: 550,000 € + additional costs and fittings
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with indoor unit
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions?
- You could give up: basically nothing 😀
- You could not give up: a few extra square meters here and there
Why did the design turn out this way?
For example: it fits well on the plot, although the terrace is quite small.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Will the long hallway annoy us despite being reasonably wide?
SoL schrieb:
Even though I find the floor plan quite... unusual as well: The bathroom is located above the hallway and might be running over the guest toilet. The upper floor is mirrored, if I’m reading the stairs correctly. Wait, what? I see the bathroom directly above the open living area. That could make quite a noise in the living room.
Besides that, the children’s rooms are on the north side, while the bathroom and bedroom face the bright, south side—which seems odd to me.
First of all, I would definitely talk to the structural engineer. He will probably have to add a support column somewhere in the living room, and then there will be a lot of complaints.
K a t j a schrieb:
What now? I see the bathroom directly above the open-plan living area. That could get pretty noisy in the living room. You’re right, I was thinking of the toilet upstairs. My mistake.
Now it actually gets interesting.
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Bertram10018 Feb 2022 08:49Your vestibule idea is like a perpetual motion machine for bringing dirt as far as possible into the house: a vestibule works best when placed "across" the hallway. You enter, have a large doormat, wall space for shoes and coat storage, and a small seat to the left or right of the door. Take off your shoes, then go through the door into the hallway. With space to dry the dog’s paws, a vestibule 160 cm deep (63 inches) and rather wide/across next to the front door is sufficient. A chimney flue acts like a highway for wind and dirt. It’s actually a wind accelerator rather than a wind barrier.
Otherwise, I can only say that you’re cheerfully spending a lot of space and money for little benefit. The corner next to the piano and the main bathroom upstairs provide enough space that isn’t used very well.
I am a big fan of fairly small houses because they incorporate a lot of experience and flow for efficiency. Old small houses or modern small houses show how to live practically without sacrificing comfort. You can always plan bigger later. At the crucial points, you have the flow of a small terraced house (kitchen, bathroom, hallway/vestibule, office), and where it hardly improves comfort or movement flow, you have the feel of luxury (central area, large bathroom, exterior appearance). But that will hardly be noticed since you don’t stand in the dead space in the middle of the bathroom and enjoy it—it’s just a basic circulation area.
I do feel a bit sorry about the money that will unfortunately fly out the window here at the expense of living quality. Regardless of the resale value, which I probably wouldn’t risk so easily.
Otherwise, I can only say that you’re cheerfully spending a lot of space and money for little benefit. The corner next to the piano and the main bathroom upstairs provide enough space that isn’t used very well.
I am a big fan of fairly small houses because they incorporate a lot of experience and flow for efficiency. Old small houses or modern small houses show how to live practically without sacrificing comfort. You can always plan bigger later. At the crucial points, you have the flow of a small terraced house (kitchen, bathroom, hallway/vestibule, office), and where it hardly improves comfort or movement flow, you have the feel of luxury (central area, large bathroom, exterior appearance). But that will hardly be noticed since you don’t stand in the dead space in the middle of the bathroom and enjoy it—it’s just a basic circulation area.
I do feel a bit sorry about the money that will unfortunately fly out the window here at the expense of living quality. Regardless of the resale value, which I probably wouldn’t risk so easily.
blubbernase schrieb:
As a reference, we always have the hallway at my mother-in-law’s place in mind, which has a gross width of 170cm (67 inches), with a wardrobe/sideboard on both the left and right sides. It has never felt too narrow to us, and we will probably go with 220cm (87 inches).
You should also consider the positioning of the front door. As it is now, centered, it hardly allows for any cabinets or seating on either side.
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Myrna_Loy18 Feb 2022 09:41I don’t understand how anyone can find such a floor plan practical, but since it is being insisted on, it must feel right to the homeowners.
However, I would really angle the bathroom on the ground floor with the office. Then, I would add a window on the side of the office.
However, I would really angle the bathroom on the ground floor with the office. Then, I would add a window on the side of the office.
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Myrna_Loy18 Feb 2022 11:30One could also remove the window on the entrance side – which I personally find unnecessarily unattractive and off-putting.
