ᐅ Floor plan of a 1.5-story house with a captain’s gable, covering just under 200 square meters
Created on: 18 Jul 2021 18:13
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blubbernase
hi, we have been going back and forth with the work and wanted to get your opinion
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 673 m² (7239 ft²)
Slope: 3.5% incline from one side to the other
Floor area ratio: 0.2 (Floor area ratio I: 134.6 m² (1450 ft²), Floor area ratio II: 201.9 m² (2172 ft²))
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see picture (the side lines mark the property borders)
Edge development: new residential area, detached houses
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: max 1 full story
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: captain’s house
Orientation: ridge runs northwest to southeast
Maximum heights/limits: eaves height 4.5 m (15 ft), ridge height 9 m (30 ft), reference point in development plan nearly 1 meter (3 ft) above plot level, brick facing required, dormers allowed on only 50% of the eaves length
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, stories: partial unheated basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 34 m, 33 f, 3 m, 4 f + 1 planned
Space needs on the ground floor: 1 office, 1 office/guest room, kitchen with dining area, living room, bathroom with shower, entry hall
Space needs on the upper floor: 1 bedroom, 3 children's rooms, 1 full bathroom, 1 toilet with washer/dryer
Office: 100% home office
Overnight guests per year: 1 per month, mother-in-law
Conservative or modern construction: practical?
Kitchen: kitchen with dining area, table to be inside the kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one car and bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: maybe later
House Design
Ground floor: floor area 107.5 m² (1156 ft²) (including stairs)
Upper floor: floor area 101.2 m² (1090 ft²) (including stairs)
Basement: approx. 70 m² (753 ft²)
Designer: designed by ourselves using Sweet Home 3D
Basically, we based the exterior dimensions on the Whiteline promotional house "Kiefernallee" from Gussek Haus and extended it about 50 cm (20 inches) longer on the left side of the gable. We have been working with Gussek Haus for a while. Initially, we had a floor plan with 4 gables and a longer house, but we discarded it due to complexity. The upper-floor layout is still based on that promotional house, but the ground floor has changed quite a bit.
What do you particularly like? When entering the house, you’re not immediately in the living room.
Price estimate according to the architect/planner: base house approx. 450,000 € (including move-in ready) + 60,000 €
Personal price limit for the house including basement: 550,000 € + additional costs and fittings
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with indoor unit
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions?
- You could give up: basically nothing 😀
- You could not give up: a few extra square meters here and there
Why did the design turn out this way?
For example: it fits well on the plot, although the terrace is quite small.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Will the long hallway annoy us despite being reasonably wide?
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 673 m² (7239 ft²)
Slope: 3.5% incline from one side to the other
Floor area ratio: 0.2 (Floor area ratio I: 134.6 m² (1450 ft²), Floor area ratio II: 201.9 m² (2172 ft²))
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see picture (the side lines mark the property borders)
Edge development: new residential area, detached houses
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: max 1 full story
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: captain’s house
Orientation: ridge runs northwest to southeast
Maximum heights/limits: eaves height 4.5 m (15 ft), ridge height 9 m (30 ft), reference point in development plan nearly 1 meter (3 ft) above plot level, brick facing required, dormers allowed on only 50% of the eaves length
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, stories: partial unheated basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 34 m, 33 f, 3 m, 4 f + 1 planned
Space needs on the ground floor: 1 office, 1 office/guest room, kitchen with dining area, living room, bathroom with shower, entry hall
Space needs on the upper floor: 1 bedroom, 3 children's rooms, 1 full bathroom, 1 toilet with washer/dryer
Office: 100% home office
Overnight guests per year: 1 per month, mother-in-law
Conservative or modern construction: practical?
Kitchen: kitchen with dining area, table to be inside the kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one car and bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: maybe later
House Design
Ground floor: floor area 107.5 m² (1156 ft²) (including stairs)
Upper floor: floor area 101.2 m² (1090 ft²) (including stairs)
Basement: approx. 70 m² (753 ft²)
Designer: designed by ourselves using Sweet Home 3D
Basically, we based the exterior dimensions on the Whiteline promotional house "Kiefernallee" from Gussek Haus and extended it about 50 cm (20 inches) longer on the left side of the gable. We have been working with Gussek Haus for a while. Initially, we had a floor plan with 4 gables and a longer house, but we discarded it due to complexity. The upper-floor layout is still based on that promotional house, but the ground floor has changed quite a bit.
What do you particularly like? When entering the house, you’re not immediately in the living room.
Price estimate according to the architect/planner: base house approx. 450,000 € (including move-in ready) + 60,000 €
Personal price limit for the house including basement: 550,000 € + additional costs and fittings
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with indoor unit
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions?
- You could give up: basically nothing 😀
- You could not give up: a few extra square meters here and there
Why did the design turn out this way?
For example: it fits well on the plot, although the terrace is quite small.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Will the long hallway annoy us despite being reasonably wide?
blubbernase schrieb:
Regarding the dimensions: We are building with timber studs – does the size of the bricks not matter then?Oh, timber studs, I might have missed that – yes, in that case, the brick dimensions don’t matter :-)blubbernase schrieb:
Funny that this term only appears in this forum 🙂 Do you have a copyright on it?If you want, I "invented" the word myself and, due to "lack of originality" (and so on), unfortunately do not have a copyright on it. However, the phenomenon that this word describes occurs far beyond just forums. If I earned royalties on shoddy work in real life, I would have been a (quite wealthy) retiree for about thirty years by now 🙂https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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blubbernase7 Jan 2022 00:58Myrna_Loy schrieb:
The living-dining area is really difficult to furnish. It’s all open but somehow lacks flow and connection.Thanks for the feedback! This is roughly how we’re currently planning to arrange the furniture. It’s actually not that complicated. *shrugs*. Maybe you’d like to explain your concerns in more detail?For the entrance, we are thinking of creating access using glass/wood/metal elements, but we don’t have a final design yet. We might even build that only after moving in, to see which kind of “flow” works best.
I have to agree with the opinion about the ground floor. You don’t really notice the actual floor area anywhere, despite there being quite a few corners. Instead, it feels like a 1950s suburban house in terms of the level of complexity and the perceived space. This is probably also due to the extravagance of having a (mini) office plus a full-sized guest room (including another desk), which takes up a lot of space and adds to the complexity. Is that necessary? The "pantry" (?) in this scenario mostly just amuses me, at least. Didn’t I at some point recommend going to the architect *WITHOUT* any prior sketches? 😉
K1300S schrieb:
Just go to the architect, and do it WITHOUT this scribbling.
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Myrna_Loy7 Jan 2022 09:51If you don’t recognize the drawback on the ground floor and just respond with a *shrug*, it seems you’re not interested in feedback. You create an open space that you then fill with various structures. It looks more like a maze than a well-planned layout. You are always sitting in unprotected areas with multiple activity zones right next to each other. However, you don’t have a clear view because of storage cubes, room dividers, and partition elements placed around. Piano upstairs with dishwasher noise. Sofa lounges in the passageway with views in all directions, and everything revolves around the 1.5 m² (16 ft²) storage block like a Swedish Christmas tree?
K1300S schrieb:
Didn’t I at some point suggest going to the architect *WITHOUT* any prior design? I wouldn’t want to swear it only happened once ;-)
K1300S schrieb:
You don’t sense the actual floor area at any corner (and unfortunately, there are plenty of them). [...] in terms of how convoluted it feels and the perceived space. Myrna_Loy schrieb:
It looks more like a labyrinth than a structure or a plan. Excess corners are the telltale signs of too many rooms caused by too many wishes per hectare of living space ;-)
K1300S schrieb:
This probably stems from the extravagance of a (mini) office plus a full-sized guest room (including an additional desk), which demands a lot of space and adds to the complexity. Is that really necessary? The "pantry" (?) in this scenario mostly just amuses me. Myrna_Loy schrieb:
You’re always sitting unprotected everywhere, with multiple activity zones right next to each other. These are just concrete examples of how you can read a lack of planning luck from the which details—although the pantry as a central pillar under the “tent” roof does have something original about it—totem, maypole, tribal pole—anyway, the whole house seems to dance around it 🙂
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blubbernase7 Jan 2022 13:19Myrna_Loy schrieb:
If you don’t recognize the shortcoming on the ground floor and just respond with a *shrugs*, it seems like you’re not interested in any comments. That’s a strange conclusion... “If you don’t see your mistakes and ask for help, then you’re not interested in answers.” To me, that sounds like being told, “Your outfit looks terrible, go change it.” – What’s wrong? – Everything. If you don’t see that, you probably don’t want help.
Otherwise, I can’t relate to general universal quantifiers like everywhere, any, elsewhere, everything.
K1300S schrieb:
The “pantry” (?) in this scenario actually only adds (at least to me) some amusement. That’s great if it brings you joy; then the post has a positive effect.
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