ᐅ Floor Plan & House Positioning Single-Family Home with a Curved Layout

Created on: 6 Mar 2020 23:33
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hausnrplus25
Hello dear forum members,

we have tried to prepare the questionnaire and the attachments carefully and thoroughly.
If there are still any open questions – please feel free to ask.
We appreciate your time in considering our building project and welcome constructive criticism, ideas, and suggestions =)

Development plan / restrictions
Plot size:
610m² (6565 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.3 (exceeding this is possible through fully greened roof surfaces)
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3m (10 ft) building boundary on west and east sides, detached building
Number of storeys: 1 full storey
Additional requirements: soundproofing (noise level category II)

Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type:
classic detached house / somewhat country house style; preferably with a third gable; timber frame construction; gable roof
Basement, storeys: no basement; 1.5 storeys (currently ground floor approx. 95m² (1023 sq ft) + utility room); current knee wall height 1.00m (3 ft 3 in) → would like to increase to 1.10–1.15m (3 ft 7 in – 3 ft 9 in) actual height
Number and age of inhabitants: currently 2 adults, 0 children; planning for 1–2 children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: cloakroom, utility room (also a “craft corner”), office (see below), kitchen (see below) with small pantry, guest WC with shower (size/possibility for a closet → should later be a children’s bathroom), living room and dining room (family focal point for meals and e.g. game nights with friends)
Upper floor: bedroom, walk-in closet (separate room), 2 children’s rooms (approximately equal size), bathroom with shower and bathtub and toilet behind sliding door, storage room with washer/dryer
Office: family use or home office?: desk, PC, files etc.
Number of overnight guests per year: very rare (1–2 times a year)
Open or closed architecture: rather closed, but without feeling cramped
Open kitchen, cooking island: closed kitchen → preferably short routes to dining room and terrace; preferably U- or G-shaped kitchen, or L-shaped with island
Number of dining seats: fixed 4 seats, extendable to 6–8 desired (also space for a larger table for occasional special gatherings)
Fireplace: desired, but uncertain if space and budget will allow; if yes, then a classic fireplace on a wall, preferably not as a room divider
Garage, carport: double carport desired
Utility garden, greenhouse: classic low-maintenance family garden
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be: we want a closed staircase with a landing;
we prefer a slightly more complex layout, sometimes an angled wall, as it feels cozier (we don’t like everything square, open, and white);
we want a house for our future family with plenty of storage space and practicality; it should naturally look good inside and out, but it is primarily for use, not a design piece;
covered house entrance;
optimize plot area for house and garden, minimize front garden;
use cardinal directions/sun positions sensibly

House design
Who created the design:
combination of DIY (room plan / partial room arrangement / staircase preference) and design by preferred house company (house exterior dimensions / staircase location / partial room arrangement)
What do you particularly like? Why?: rooms, orientation of rooms, staircase / use of stairwell
What do you not like? Why?: unsure about the route from kitchen to dining room/terrace; size of some rooms
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: €370,000 (approx. $400,000) including carport, turnkey (excluding extra costs for site work, exterior landscaping, plastering and flooring (tiles included))
Preferred heating system: currently air-to-water heat pump (monobloc with outdoor unit) with underfloor heating and mechanical ventilation with heat recovery; photovoltaics undecided
If you had to give up details / expansions:
- What could you live without?
potentially an internal staircase
- What can you not give up? we would not be open to suggestions on this point and would not participate in the project otherwise; but basically the design mostly meets all our must-have wishes; bedroom access via a walk-in closet is not acceptable for us → so two separate accesses

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
House positioning? (allow only 0.5m (1 ft 8 in) space to neighbor to the north with utility room? House would be about 3.5m (11 ft 6 in) away, so office windows under carport? Or carport offset from house? Or angled placement but then cardinal directions regarding floor plan change? Any other ideas?)

Knee wall height?

Room sizes? → we feel everything is a little tight, or does it just look like that in drawings? We want a cozy, homely house without huge entrance or open gallery, but it should not feel cramped...

Price estimate?

PS: arrows indicate that plot boundaries are slightly angled, no slope; blue = building boundaries; all plans are oriented north

Floor plan of a rectangular plot with black and blue curves, compass rose left, measurements.


Site plan of a building by a river with plot boundary and dimension lines.


Site plan: angled building, river left, blue lines, red distances 1.5 m, 3 m, 11 m, 6.5 m.


Settlement plan: brown cul-de-sac with 8 houses, grey settlement with 23 houses; playground, north.


Floor plan of a house with rooms (living room, kitchen, WC, hallway, office, cloakroom) and dimensions


Floor plan of a furnished apartment with hallway, living room, kitchen, bathroom and bedroom.
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haydee
9 Mar 2020 22:53
Your answer is, hmm... factual.
11ant10 Mar 2020 01:50
hausnrplus25 schrieb:

A type house = a standard floor plan? So it’s not like we haven’t done any research. We are open to being shown an example that meets our wishes.

Don’t expect a miracle solution; those are rare even in mythical creatures. Instead, aim for the Pareto optimum as your benchmark. The closer you get to a mix of 90% wish fulfillment and 10% compromise, the more this will likely reflect your budget as well—don’t forget that.
ypg schrieb:

The landing itself is a small tripping hazard because it disrupts the rhythm of the steps….

After using the same staircase three times, that only applies in dim lighting and to people who don’t dance well.
hausnrplus25 schrieb:

How can objective qualities like wall construction correlate with subjectively assessable floor plans?

Because even a “blue” personality type with an unshakable self-image as a purely rational person is actually a holistic being and is understood—or not—by the person opposite them. The gut-brain level and the head-brain level do indeed correlate. I can be mistaken too, but I see you with Gussek Haus—which “follows” that alternatively almost only Viebrockhaus fits you equally well.
hausnrplus25 schrieb:

Indoor climate, ecological background, we like wood,
hausnrplus25 schrieb:

But as I said, I will not justify the house type any further.

I was never about justifying but simply trying to understand the preference impartially—because it seemed so incongruent with how my “crystal ball” sees you. If you really want a house with “high cocoa content,” you might want to check out the perennial carpenter (see @Climbee). In an ordinary “wood frame” prefab house, there is so much wood in the walls that a butcher could recommend it to a vegetarian.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
hausnrplus2510 Mar 2020 07:56
haydee schrieb:

Your response is, hmm… quite factual.

Your question was a bit provocative as well. Maybe it’s just a subjective perception, since homeowners with timber frame houses are ALWAYS expected to explain their choice, while owners of solid construction are usually not questioned.
11ant schrieb:

In a typical timber frame prefab house, there’s so much wood in the walls that even a butcher could recommend it to a vegetarian.

Well, in the one we favor, quite a lot of wood is used. And definitely no bricks or blocks.
We simply believe that neither prefab timber frame nor solid construction is better or worse; it’s a personal decision, so trying to justify it with arguments doesn’t really work.

The 90/10% comment is a valid point.
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haydee
10 Mar 2020 10:21
No timber frame needs to justify itself

Timber frame and timber house are two different types of houses.
Then there’s also the ecological argument.
For us, only the roof came from the region, not the walls. They were ordered from the Bavarian Forest, but the CE marking shows the production was in Lithuania. The quality is good, as they have one of the most modern factories there, but ecologically?
Have you looked at forests in Canada or the damage caused by logging? A lot of this wood ends up in construction here.

The company mentioned by 11ant does not install screed. The solid houses I know have screed that has fully dried during the drying time. Or is this only done by villagers here because the mayor and the lady have always liked it that way?
hausnrplus2510 Mar 2020 11:27
We have experienced construction sites that never fully dried out, and in those cases, the walls were the problem because they were exposed to winter rain for weeks... Everyone has their own subjective experiences. Our newly built apartment also has uneven walls, which made wallpapering quite frustrating. Timber-frame house = no chasing (cutting channels for cables), no plastering.

Where the wood comes from definitely affects the ecological footprint, but overall it is simply a renewable material. And that alone is a positive aspect for us. In the end, it’s a gut decision.
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ypg
10 Mar 2020 11:36
Do not justify your choice! That is not the point here, and there is no need to revisit this in every thread if the discussion is not progressing on the issue.