Hello everyone,
after reading through this forum a bit, I see that many of you have the necessary experience to provide valuable advice.
We plan to design our house with an architect, but some initial input wouldn’t hurt :-)
We do not want a prefabricated house.
Our half of the semi-detached house has a length of 12 meters (39 feet) and a width of 7.50 meters (25 feet).
We want to include a basement. The wall height is specified in the building plans as 6.20 meters (20 feet), and the ridge height as 8.25 meters (27 feet). The roof must have a pitch angle between 0 and 20 degrees. A maximum of two full stories are allowed.
Our dream is an open kitchen with dining and living areas (where the living area should be somewhat separated by a fireplace).
One bathroom on the ground floor, and possibly a small office.
If an attic level is possible, we would build two children’s bedrooms, a playroom, and a bathroom on the first floor.
In the attic, we would want the master bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, and possibly an office.
If an attic is not possible, then the master bedroom and dressing room would need to be included on the first floor.
Do the experts here know if an attic level is feasible or if this is impossible?
Which additional features would you consider indispensable or recommend?
Perhaps someone could even help us with a nice floor plan. :-)
Thank you very much in advance!
after reading through this forum a bit, I see that many of you have the necessary experience to provide valuable advice.
We plan to design our house with an architect, but some initial input wouldn’t hurt :-)
We do not want a prefabricated house.
Our half of the semi-detached house has a length of 12 meters (39 feet) and a width of 7.50 meters (25 feet).
We want to include a basement. The wall height is specified in the building plans as 6.20 meters (20 feet), and the ridge height as 8.25 meters (27 feet). The roof must have a pitch angle between 0 and 20 degrees. A maximum of two full stories are allowed.
Our dream is an open kitchen with dining and living areas (where the living area should be somewhat separated by a fireplace).
One bathroom on the ground floor, and possibly a small office.
If an attic level is possible, we would build two children’s bedrooms, a playroom, and a bathroom on the first floor.
In the attic, we would want the master bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, and possibly an office.
If an attic is not possible, then the master bedroom and dressing room would need to be included on the first floor.
Do the experts here know if an attic level is feasible or if this is impossible?
Which additional features would you consider indispensable or recommend?
Perhaps someone could even help us with a nice floor plan. :-)
Thank you very much in advance!
Wow, I’m really impressed by the great tips you can get here :-)
When you think about it more carefully, you might not actually need a playroom. The idea originally came from some friends of ours who did it that way ;-)
I have now created a floor plan without an attic (I only read about that afterwards :-) ). Maybe some of you have a few tips on this, as I’m a complete beginner in this field.
I hope we will still be friends after the build, but for now we communicate quite well with each other and actually want to move in the same direction.
When you think about it more carefully, you might not actually need a playroom. The idea originally came from some friends of ours who did it that way ;-)
I have now created a floor plan without an attic (I only read about that afterwards :-) ). Maybe some of you have a few tips on this, as I’m a complete beginner in this field.
I hope we will still be friends after the build, but for now we communicate quite well with each other and actually want to move in the same direction.
What I notice:
Hallway
From my perspective, it’s a disaster. Long and narrow. You’ll bump into each other while getting dressed, and there’s not really enough space for a coat rack. The space under the stairs will quickly be used up.
Living Room
It’s not my taste to see the back of the sofa. We had that in our old apartment, and somehow it always looked... makeshift.
Guest Bathroom
Does the guest bathroom really need a shower? Or would just a toilet be enough, giving you some extra space for the hallway?
Master Bedroom
I would swap it with the upstairs children’s room and then shift it slightly downward (you can still have a walk-in closet). That way, you’ll have a shorter path to the bathroom. The kids have young legs, and you’ll live in the house longer than they will. You can still place the doors there; it gives the rooms a slight offset, which I always like because it breaks up the “square, practical, good” look a bit.
Hallway
From my perspective, it’s a disaster. Long and narrow. You’ll bump into each other while getting dressed, and there’s not really enough space for a coat rack. The space under the stairs will quickly be used up.
Living Room
It’s not my taste to see the back of the sofa. We had that in our old apartment, and somehow it always looked... makeshift.
Guest Bathroom
Does the guest bathroom really need a shower? Or would just a toilet be enough, giving you some extra space for the hallway?
Master Bedroom
I would swap it with the upstairs children’s room and then shift it slightly downward (you can still have a walk-in closet). That way, you’ll have a shorter path to the bathroom. The kids have young legs, and you’ll live in the house longer than they will. You can still place the doors there; it gives the rooms a slight offset, which I always like because it breaks up the “square, practical, good” look a bit.
11ant schrieb:
My idea for a recessed floor (setback floor) is to make full use of the eave height (which will probably provide less than half a meter (1.5 feet) of knee wall) and to install a shed roof. I don’t understand. What happens with the maximum wall height of 6.20 meters (20.3 feet)? Isn’t it exceeded at the second floor with a shed roof? Or does this limit no longer apply to the recessed floor?
kaho674 schrieb:
What do the tangent and the expert say about this? A planner should weigh the possible versus the intended here. According to your calculation, the attic only has a clear height of 2.05 m (6 ft 9 in) at the highest point, since the roof structure is closer to 30 cm (12 inches) rather than 15 cm (6 inches), and the tolerance, as @11ant already mentioned, only applies to the absolute height above sea level.
I would have calculated like this (without considering current requirements for full-story designation, soundproofing, or thermal insulation):
- Clear height on the ground floor and upper floor each 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in)
- 0.20 m (8 inches) ceiling thickness
- 8.25 m (27 ft 1 in) minus 5.40 m (17 ft 9 in) equals 2.85 m (9 ft 4 in), minus 30 cm (12 inches) roof structure leaves 2.55 m (8 ft 4 in) clear height in the attic.
A pitched roof or setback story is also part of the assessment process, as is the exact design of the sections with feasible component cross-sections.
kaho674 schrieb:
Or does the limit then no longer apply to a setback story? This needs to be discussed with the permitting authority. With setback stories and shed roofs, there are different interpretations of wall heights, eaves, and ridge levels. For example, it depends on how far the setback story is recessed. The fact that the current BayBO no longer uses the term full story does not make matters any easier.
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