ᐅ Floor Plan Evaluation Single-Family Home 147 m² Gable Roof with Extension
Created on: 7 Jul 2022 15:30
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KED1234
Hello everyone,
I have been quietly following along for a while. Since our project is starting to take shape, I wanted to tap into the collective wisdom here and ask for feedback on our early design. Many details are not finalized yet, but the basic structure is becoming clear. Thanks!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 381 m2 (4100 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: The current design fully uses the building envelope (except for the terrace area) at approx. 13 x 14 m (43 x 46 ft)
Setback: max. 9 m (30 ft) per side (carport/tool shed fills this), 15 m (49 ft) total
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: 2 (according to development plan)
Roof type: Gable roof with 45-50° pitch (design currently planned at 50°)
Architectural style: ?? It would be nice if it looks at least architecturally appealing
Orientation: Terrace faces west
Maximum heights / limits: Max eaves height 3.8 m (12 ft 6 in)
Other requirements: - Red/brown brick is mandatory on the main building; 2 m (6.5 ft) minimum distance of roof structures from gable edge required
Owners’ Requirements
Architectural style: Somewhat modern / appealing
Roof type: Gable roof – no flexibility here
Building type: Single-family house
Basement: No
Number of floors: 2 (formally 1.5?)
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 child + 1 planned
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: Standard room needs – 2 children’s bedrooms + master bedroom + office
Office: Family use or home office?: Office mandatory due to significant home office use (1 person)
Overnight guests per year: Few (should be accommodated in the office)
Open or closed floor plan: Basically open but with certain limits (I don’t want to see the kitchen from the sofa, hearing and smelling it is okay)
Conservative or modern construction: Leaning towards modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Would be nice but removed due to budget
Music / stereo wall: No
Balcony / roof terrace: No
Garage / carport: Carport – possibly upgradable to garage (currently drawn as enclosed and without partition to tool shed; this will likely be changed)
Vegetable garden / greenhouse: Vegetable garden would be great but not relevant here due to space constraints
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for certain choices:
House Design
Planner:
-Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Still too early. We have rough numbers that seem to be within budget.
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
Preferred heating technology: Ground-source heat pump with deep borehole, possibly a ventilation system with heat recovery. (I still need to research to decide my stance in the discussion)
If you have to give up on something, which details or extras
-Can you give up: Facade design. Currently an expensive clinker brick is planned and the wood cladding isn’t cheap either. Windows could be replaced with fixed glazing.
-Can’t give up: It shouldn’t be smaller.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I’m interested in a basic assessment. Please don’t hold back on pointing out mistakes/problems. It’s still early enough to make changes.
I have been quietly following along for a while. Since our project is starting to take shape, I wanted to tap into the collective wisdom here and ask for feedback on our early design. Many details are not finalized yet, but the basic structure is becoming clear. Thanks!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 381 m2 (4100 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: The current design fully uses the building envelope (except for the terrace area) at approx. 13 x 14 m (43 x 46 ft)
Setback: max. 9 m (30 ft) per side (carport/tool shed fills this), 15 m (49 ft) total
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: 2 (according to development plan)
Roof type: Gable roof with 45-50° pitch (design currently planned at 50°)
Architectural style: ?? It would be nice if it looks at least architecturally appealing
Orientation: Terrace faces west
Maximum heights / limits: Max eaves height 3.8 m (12 ft 6 in)
Other requirements: - Red/brown brick is mandatory on the main building; 2 m (6.5 ft) minimum distance of roof structures from gable edge required
Owners’ Requirements
Architectural style: Somewhat modern / appealing
Roof type: Gable roof – no flexibility here
Building type: Single-family house
Basement: No
Number of floors: 2 (formally 1.5?)
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 child + 1 planned
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: Standard room needs – 2 children’s bedrooms + master bedroom + office
Office: Family use or home office?: Office mandatory due to significant home office use (1 person)
Overnight guests per year: Few (should be accommodated in the office)
Open or closed floor plan: Basically open but with certain limits (I don’t want to see the kitchen from the sofa, hearing and smelling it is okay)
Conservative or modern construction: Leaning towards modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Would be nice but removed due to budget
Music / stereo wall: No
Balcony / roof terrace: No
Garage / carport: Carport – possibly upgradable to garage (currently drawn as enclosed and without partition to tool shed; this will likely be changed)
Vegetable garden / greenhouse: Vegetable garden would be great but not relevant here due to space constraints
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for certain choices:
- We would like to realize an L-shaped layout to create a sheltered garden and find it visually appealing.
- The staircase should be open – depending on costs, as an attractive floating staircase (both of us come from homes with open stairs and find noise and odors acceptable).
House Design
Planner:
-Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Long and narrow design. As a result, the house is clearly lower than the neighbors.
- Floor-to-ceiling windows
- Generally, I like the room layout
What do you dislike? Why?
- Unequal size children’s bedrooms (not ideal but acceptable), and one is borderline small.
- Master bedroom could be slightly smaller. Overall, we haven’t found a better arrangement.
- I don’t like the small utility room next to the pantry as it is. I would lower it and merge it with the utility room. The pantry would then be a bit higher and mirrored so the door can stay the same.
- Window sizes and distribution are not final. The office should get a larger glass door for garden access; the living room possibly a large window instead of two smaller ones. I would like wider dormer windows.
- I don’t like the street-facing elevation yet. It needs lighting near the entrance and the large blank area bothers me.
- Guest bathroom still needs natural light, possibly from above.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: Still too early. We have rough numbers that seem to be within budget.
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
Preferred heating technology: Ground-source heat pump with deep borehole, possibly a ventilation system with heat recovery. (I still need to research to decide my stance in the discussion)
If you have to give up on something, which details or extras
-Can you give up: Facade design. Currently an expensive clinker brick is planned and the wood cladding isn’t cheap either. Windows could be replaced with fixed glazing.
-Can’t give up: It shouldn’t be smaller.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I’m interested in a basic assessment. Please don’t hold back on pointing out mistakes/problems. It’s still early enough to make changes.
ypg schrieb:
Here is the kitchen: the island is a bit smaller.
Child with mom, needs to use the bathroom, teen fiddling with their phone, doesn’t want to move aside, dad cooking (loading the dishwasher)… the noise and family chaos seem inevitable for years to come 😉
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Thank you for the drawing. As mentioned, we currently live in a nearly identical layout and it works very well for us. Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I would value these personal experiences more than just a picture. Admittedly, we don’t yet have a rebellious teenager around, but occasionally we have guests as a stress test – it works well.
K a t j a schrieb:
Well, the quickest solution would probably be to place the kitchen on the opposite wall. But then the question quickly arises: how much light will remain on the dining table, which brings us back to the southeast-facing windows. It's also necessary to determine whether it's easier to move around the dining table. Then you would have to pass by the dining table instead of the kitchen. I would say it’s not much of a difference.
driver55 schrieb:
I’m looking forward to the update.
Although, I think I already know how it will turn out. 😉
Yes, I’m afraid so too. I’ve known this guy for a while. Absolutely stubborn ;-) At least you gave it a try!
KED1234 schrieb:
As our project is slowly taking shape, I wanted to tap into the collective intelligence here and ask for feedback on our early design. Many aspects have not yet been fully thought through. KED1234 schrieb:
Feel free to point out any mistakes or problems without holding back. It’s still early enough to make adjustments. KED1234 schrieb:
It works very well for us. Then ask yourself what you want here if not to question our intelligence 😉
K a t j a schrieb:
Is this already complaining at a high level, or still justified criticism of the floor plan?
It’s clear that not everyone can build a castle. On the other hand, in my opinion, a lot of space and money is wasted on the extension, which would be better used in the common living area. Besides the tightness in the dining area, there is also a lack of storage space for cabinets throughout the living area. The narrow shelf behind the sofa is just for show. It’s neither easily accessible nor does it provide valuable usable space. The continuous floor-to-ceiling windows look appealing but mean there is no storage space under the windows either. With two children, this will be a daily struggle. I agree with @Myrna_Loy. The arrangement in the living room is just the architect’s and doesn’t necessarily reflect the final plan yet. I have read ypg’s storage thread. Of course, clutter always accumulates, but the concerns about storage seem a bit exaggerated here. Especially since I wouldn’t want to store most of my stuff in the living room. I’m not really into wall units. I would say there are several spots where you can easily place furniture of various sizes—definitely more than the amount of stuff I have. Still, thanks for the input. I will take another look at the window positions in light of this feedback.
ypg schrieb:
Then ask yourself what you want here if not to question our intelligence 😉I have taken all points as an opportunity to reflect. That was very helpful. In many cases, I have acknowledged that the ideas make sense and adopted them (for example, your suggestion for the door in the study). Other points I have rejected based on my own assessment. That should be allowed, right? I don’t really understand the problem. But we can also close this if that is where the discussion is heading. I’m not going to try to win an argument online. Everyone knows that’s impossible.Similar topics