ᐅ Floor Plan Evaluation Single-Family Home 147 m² Gable Roof with Extension

Created on: 7 Jul 2022 15:30
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KED1234
Hello everyone,

I have been quietly following along for a while. Since our project is starting to take shape, I wanted to tap into the collective wisdom here and ask for feedback on our early design. Many details are not finalized yet, but the basic structure is becoming clear. Thanks!

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 381 m2 (4100 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site occupancy ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: The current design fully uses the building envelope (except for the terrace area) at approx. 13 x 14 m (43 x 46 ft)
Setback: max. 9 m (30 ft) per side (carport/tool shed fills this), 15 m (49 ft) total
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: 2 (according to development plan)
Roof type: Gable roof with 45-50° pitch (design currently planned at 50°)
Architectural style: ?? It would be nice if it looks at least architecturally appealing
Orientation: Terrace faces west
Maximum heights / limits: Max eaves height 3.8 m (12 ft 6 in)
Other requirements: - Red/brown brick is mandatory on the main building; 2 m (6.5 ft) minimum distance of roof structures from gable edge required

Owners’ Requirements
Architectural style: Somewhat modern / appealing
Roof type: Gable roof – no flexibility here
Building type: Single-family house

Basement: No
Number of floors: 2 (formally 1.5?)
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 child + 1 planned
Space requirements ground floor / upper floor: Standard room needs – 2 children’s bedrooms + master bedroom + office
Office: Family use or home office?: Office mandatory due to significant home office use (1 person)
Overnight guests per year: Few (should be accommodated in the office)
Open or closed floor plan: Basically open but with certain limits (I don’t want to see the kitchen from the sofa, hearing and smelling it is okay)
Conservative or modern construction: Leaning towards modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: Would be nice but removed due to budget
Music / stereo wall: No
Balcony / roof terrace: No
Garage / carport: Carport – possibly upgradable to garage (currently drawn as enclosed and without partition to tool shed; this will likely be changed)
Vegetable garden / greenhouse: Vegetable garden would be great but not relevant here due to space constraints
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for certain choices:
  • We would like to realize an L-shaped layout to create a sheltered garden and find it visually appealing.
  • The staircase should be open – depending on costs, as an attractive floating staircase (both of us come from homes with open stairs and find noise and odors acceptable).

House Design
Planner:
-Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
  • Long and narrow design. As a result, the house is clearly lower than the neighbors.
  • Floor-to-ceiling windows
  • Generally, I like the room layout

What do you dislike? Why?
  • Unequal size children’s bedrooms (not ideal but acceptable), and one is borderline small.
  • Master bedroom could be slightly smaller. Overall, we haven’t found a better arrangement.
  • I don’t like the small utility room next to the pantry as it is. I would lower it and merge it with the utility room. The pantry would then be a bit higher and mirrored so the door can stay the same.
  • Window sizes and distribution are not final. The office should get a larger glass door for garden access; the living room possibly a large window instead of two smaller ones. I would like wider dormer windows.
  • I don’t like the street-facing elevation yet. It needs lighting near the entrance and the large blank area bothers me.
  • Guest bathroom still needs natural light, possibly from above.

Price estimate according to architect/planner: Still too early. We have rough numbers that seem to be within budget.
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
Preferred heating technology: Ground-source heat pump with deep borehole, possibly a ventilation system with heat recovery. (I still need to research to decide my stance in the discussion)

If you have to give up on something, which details or extras
-Can you give up: Facade design. Currently an expensive clinker brick is planned and the wood cladding isn’t cheap either. Windows could be replaced with fixed glazing.
-Can’t give up: It shouldn’t be smaller.

What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
I’m interested in a basic assessment. Please don’t hold back on pointing out mistakes/problems. It’s still early enough to make changes.

Four elevations of a house with roof, windows and entrance, views southwest, southeast, northeast, northwest


Technical map section with red building structures, blue contours and arrows.


Floor plan of a single-family house: living room, dining, kitchen, office, bathroom, garage.


Aerial view of a residential area with red property boundary and dimensions in meters


Attic floor plan: 2 children’s bedrooms left, master bedroom right, bathroom center, staircase in the middle.


Architectural drawing: house sections with roof structure, interior layout and dimensions.


Cadastral map of a plot with red outline and area 381.6 m²
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KED1234
8 Jul 2022 15:20
Myrna_Loy schrieb:

The ground floor layout clearly seems designed for DINKS (Dual Income, No Kids) rather than a family with children. I can easily imagine it as a set for a crime drama in an affluent suburb of Munich. 😉
Very fitting. The corpse is probably hidden in the ground floor bathroom. It’s so far away, no one will ever come by ;-)
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Myrna_Loy
8 Jul 2022 15:25
I rather see the grieving widow holding onto the kitchen counter in shock or sitting in the Barcelona Chair during the interrogation, staring out at the garden. 😀
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haydee
8 Jul 2022 15:47
Traffic flow in the kitchen with children manageable?

Between the island and the kitchen units is one of the main traffic routes on the ground floor.

2.5 m (8 ft 2 in) for dining space is too little. At most, you could place a bench along the partition wall.
K a t j a8 Jul 2022 16:39
haydee schrieb:

The main traffic route on the ground floor is between the island and the kitchen units.

I don’t think it’s that bad. The washing machine is supposed to be in the utility room, so the busiest route with laundry won’t go through there. Only the parents really need to go to the office. The pantry is part of the kitchen anyway, and after that, people tend to leave it behind. There aren’t enough guests often enough to cause a line from the guest bathroom all the way to the kitchen.
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ypg
8 Jul 2022 19:14
KED1234 schrieb:

This shows me that we have very different tastes (I couldn’t stand a kitchen island that’s off-center in the room).
KED1234 schrieb:

You also have some items on the countertop there that we don’t own.


It’s not about taste, nor my kitchen, nor my appliances. When I plan floor plans here in the forum, it’s not for me but for the original poster. That’s why there’s the questionnaire.
My kitchen shouldn’t and can’t be part of the discussion at all, since we built a house for two. However, I used the length as an example. And yes, you asked: it now looks different because we had to add an extension. The automatic coffee machine no longer fit, even though we had 180cm (70 inches) of 60cm (24 inches) cabinets next to the sink for placing and preparing—without counting the island. What will you have?
Nice-Nofret schrieb:

I would rotate the house 90° counterclockwise.


Rotating is not an option. But I would probably arrange the block differently as well. Probably, because a design doesn’t just come together in a moment. You have to try many things. Especially when you no longer have the option to make the house a meter longer or change the size otherwise. You also don’t want to ruin the visually pleasing design, which is quite attractive (except for the windows).
KED1234 schrieb:

The kitchen “traffic area” is actually intentionally like that.
KED1234 schrieb:

It’s all part of the compromise.

Part of the compromise. Actually, a compromise should be a minor part of an otherwise very nice, functional house. @Myrna_Loy nicely pointed out that your workspace is also your “hallway” in the open-plan area.
Explain to me how Christmas baking is supposed to work when three other people are either playing, doing homework at the dining area, or daily chores like laundry (ground floor/upper floor) are happening: you stand and sit in each other’s way. That simply can’t be ignored.
KED1234 schrieb:

I always try to compare the design with previous living situations, and so far we have more storage space here and it has worked without problems.


So far, you’ve lived as a couple. Now there’s a child… something is still planned… living as two or with a baby is different from living as four with teenagers.
KED1234 schrieb:

We hardly ever sit in direct sunlight. We hope we can manage with that.


I would rather focus on getting light into the house. And yes, sunlight can actually be quite beneficial sometimes, especially in winter. At the dining table, where playing and homework supervision happen, sufficient daylight is very helpful.
KED1234 schrieb:

Regarding the kitchen – I seem to think differently than average.

If you order spaghetti Bolognese with an extra portion of cauliflower every day, then yes 😉
KED1234 schrieb:

Feel free to point out mistakes or problems bluntly. There is still enough time to make corrections.


That was a swing and a miss :p

Enough criticism: make the best of it!
Maybe I’ll get around to drawing your kitchen for you or making some more concrete suggestions.

P.S. For me, unfortunately, the house has little to do with an atrium bungalow. The extension/hall/office lacks a patio door with a nice view of the courtyard, which would also bring in daylight from the southwest.
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haydee
8 Jul 2022 21:38
@K a t j a
I find that you often have to walk through there. It’s especially inconvenient when you’re working in the kitchen.
It’s easy to catch your shin on the drawer.