ᐅ Floor plan single-family house with 2 full stories plus basement, approximately 130 m² of living space
Created on: 22 Nov 2021 10:47
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HeinzzLöwe
Hello everyone,
my wife and I are currently planning our house. We have already visited several construction companies and have now decided on one. The company is a manufacturer of prefabricated solid construction. The project will take place in the suburban area of Stuttgart.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 400m² (4,306 sq ft)
Sloping site
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary: 2.5m (8 feet) distance to neighbors
Edge development: only for garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors:
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits
Additional specifications: Construction allowed according to §34
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 floors + basement
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 people, 31 and 26 years old; first child on the way and definitely planning another. Space for a third child should still be possible.
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: On the ground floor space for kitchen, living, dining, guest toilet; on the upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, large bathroom; in the basement a room for office/guest room/or third child’s room if needed
Office: family use or home office? No home office
Number of overnight guests per year:
Open or closed layout: on the ground floor, living room, dining room, and kitchen are open, but the hallway has a door
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island: currently a kitchen island in the floor plan, but it takes too much space and requires reconsideration to design the kitchen as a U-shape
Number of dining seats: 6 with extension option
Fireplace: not planned
Music / stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace: not planned
Garage, carport: in the plan but depends on cost
Kitchen garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are preferred or not
House Design
Planner: the plan is from the construction company’s planner
-Architect
-Do-it-Yourself
What do you like most? Why? Overall, we like the planning well
What do you dislike? Why?
The kitchen uses too much space with the island and offers too little workspace; sliding door in the kitchen should be replaced by a regular window to place a kitchen cabinet below it.
In the living room, we are uncertain about the full-height window. The sofa will be placed on the wall next to the staircase, at least initially, as the sofa is currently an inverted L-shape. We consider changing the window to two narrow full-height windows positioned further apart.
On the upper floor, we would appreciate suggestions for the bathroom, as it currently doesn’t feel quite right.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 460,000€ (without additional construction costs and without excavation disposal). Basement finishing will be done by ourselves.
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 to 600,000€
Preferred heating technology: the offer includes an air-to-water heat pump and photovoltaic system with battery storage.
If you have to give up something, which details or expansions
-can you live without: kitchen island, although the floor plan is already reduced to the essentials
-can you absolutely not live without: For us it is more about arranging the rooms cleverly and getting ideas about what makes sense.
Why did the design end up like it is now? For example
Standard design from the planner? Revised standard design
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Overall we are very satisfied but look forward to suggestions of what might not be clever and what could be improved.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Can the space be used better or differently organized? Initially, living room and kitchen were swapped, which gave us a too small kitchen. Kitchen and dining room are the most important rooms for us.
Can the bathroom on the upper floor also be arranged differently?
Thank you in advance for your suggestions. If you have any questions or if we have forgotten something, please let us know.
my wife and I are currently planning our house. We have already visited several construction companies and have now decided on one. The company is a manufacturer of prefabricated solid construction. The project will take place in the suburban area of Stuttgart.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 400m² (4,306 sq ft)
Sloping site
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary: 2.5m (8 feet) distance to neighbors
Edge development: only for garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors:
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits
Additional specifications: Construction allowed according to §34
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 floors + basement
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 people, 31 and 26 years old; first child on the way and definitely planning another. Space for a third child should still be possible.
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: On the ground floor space for kitchen, living, dining, guest toilet; on the upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, large bathroom; in the basement a room for office/guest room/or third child’s room if needed
Office: family use or home office? No home office
Number of overnight guests per year:
Open or closed layout: on the ground floor, living room, dining room, and kitchen are open, but the hallway has a door
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island: currently a kitchen island in the floor plan, but it takes too much space and requires reconsideration to design the kitchen as a U-shape
Number of dining seats: 6 with extension option
Fireplace: not planned
Music / stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace: not planned
Garage, carport: in the plan but depends on cost
Kitchen garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are preferred or not
House Design
Planner: the plan is from the construction company’s planner
-Do-it-Yourself
What do you like most? Why? Overall, we like the planning well
What do you dislike? Why?
The kitchen uses too much space with the island and offers too little workspace; sliding door in the kitchen should be replaced by a regular window to place a kitchen cabinet below it.
In the living room, we are uncertain about the full-height window. The sofa will be placed on the wall next to the staircase, at least initially, as the sofa is currently an inverted L-shape. We consider changing the window to two narrow full-height windows positioned further apart.
On the upper floor, we would appreciate suggestions for the bathroom, as it currently doesn’t feel quite right.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 460,000€ (without additional construction costs and without excavation disposal). Basement finishing will be done by ourselves.
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 to 600,000€
Preferred heating technology: the offer includes an air-to-water heat pump and photovoltaic system with battery storage.
If you have to give up something, which details or expansions
-can you live without: kitchen island, although the floor plan is already reduced to the essentials
-can you absolutely not live without: For us it is more about arranging the rooms cleverly and getting ideas about what makes sense.
Why did the design end up like it is now? For example
Standard design from the planner? Revised standard design
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Overall we are very satisfied but look forward to suggestions of what might not be clever and what could be improved.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Can the space be used better or differently organized? Initially, living room and kitchen were swapped, which gave us a too small kitchen. Kitchen and dining room are the most important rooms for us.
Can the bathroom on the upper floor also be arranged differently?
Thank you in advance for your suggestions. If you have any questions or if we have forgotten something, please let us know.
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HeinzzLöwe23 Nov 2021 12:31Hangman schrieb:
What is it like to the east, or what is there?To the east, there is still a barn from the neighboring farmer and then only meadow. However, we don’t want to be too close to the barn because the animals naturally make noise and emit odors. For this reason, placing the house right on the eastern property boundary is not an option for us.
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HeinzzLöwe23 Nov 2021 12:34pagoni2020 schrieb:
Not to be misunderstood—I’m not saying there has to be a shower there. I just want to suggest considering it, especially in relation to your own habits and needs. I have to admit, I overlooked the fact that you are building a basement; a shower there would make sense, particularly for future internal moves of the children within the house.
I also didn’t have the basement in mind before, sorry about that. We recently built a bathroom of 9.5m² (102 sq ft), and we definitely don’t find it too small. At the moment, your bathroom could still be rearranged, and if 1-2m² (11-22 sq ft) were added to the bedroom, I don’t see that as a disadvantage; that’s what I meant. The nearly 16m² (172 sq ft) per children’s bedroom seems well-sized to me. I think 14m² (150 sq ft) is also sufficient, but less is not enough. Ultimately, it depends on personal perspective. Often there is a worry that something might be too small, so people choose to make it unnecessarily bigger without real added value. We just moved in, and I was uncertain about some dimensions, whereas my wife was confident about the measurements and clearances. Now that I see it live, she was right… that can happen sometimes 🤨.
Of course, the children should have a nice space, but as adults, we shouldn’t forget our own needs. For children, room size is usually less important; that’s more in our heads. Maybe it would also be an idea to offset the partition wall between the two children’s rooms in the middle, so each side gets a niche where the wardrobe can be placed—children’s wardrobes are usually not very wide.
I really like the idea mentioned above of having an open area on the upper floor. Children would love that—you could place a loft bed or create a sleeping platform at reasonable cost. Who didn’t like having a hideout or a little cave as a child? That would be something special, plus it gains a lot of living space. I don’t like using the attic for storage anyway; the basement is much better suited for that.
Basically, we signed up here to get different perspectives, so keep them coming and thanks for the ideas. 😉
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pagoni202023 Nov 2021 12:46HeinzzLöwe schrieb:
Basically, we joined this forum to get different perspectives, so keep them coming and thanks for the ideas 😉It’s also fun to let your imagination run a bit, even if you end up setting some things aside. Still, I would recommend being a bit bolder with ideas like this. Usually, among friends or in your environment, there will always be people who say they wouldn’t do it that way... I would let that influence me less. There are always reasons against every idea that get mentioned. I think it’s really important and also challenging to find your own ideas among all the advice. Not following through with your own ideas just because of such advice would be a shame in hindsight. You are young, be courageous—that’s my opinion. I have mostly been bold in life, and I’m glad when I look back on it. The idea of a second sleeping level in the children’s rooms is really great and a real benefit. Too bad it wasn’t my idea.
With Hauser Massivbau, I expect that you will be satisfied; they leave a good impression on me. One and a half thousand construction projects without legal disputes is a cool claim on their website, but unfortunately, I couldn’t find detailed information on the exact wall and ceiling construction. Still, since this isn’t my first time looking at their website, they seem to be a reliable general contractor with an apparently technically enthusiastic senior manager.
You should accept the suggestion to position the house facing east. A cow’s moo won’t be noticeably quieter just three meters (about 10 feet) further away, and for a cow’s odor, the wind direction matters more than the distance. Countryside is countryside, and it certainly has its advantages. By the way, where will your (in-laws) parents park in the future if they end up destroying their garage to make room for your driveway?
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You should accept the suggestion to position the house facing east. A cow’s moo won’t be noticeably quieter just three meters (about 10 feet) further away, and for a cow’s odor, the wind direction matters more than the distance. Countryside is countryside, and it certainly has its advantages. By the way, where will your (in-laws) parents park in the future if they end up destroying their garage to make room for your driveway?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
HeinzzLöwe schrieb:
However, we don’t want to build too close to the barn because the animals obviously produce noise and odors. I’m not sure if your 2-meter (6.5-foot) distance will really protect you from the sounds and smells of rural living 😉
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HeinzzLöwe24 Nov 2021 12:3911ant schrieb:
With Hauser Massivbau, I expect that you will be satisfied; they make a good impression on me. One and a half thousand construction projects without legal disputes is a nice claim on their website, but unfortunately, I couldn’t find detailed information about the exact wall and ceiling structures. Still, I’m not looking at their website for the first time—they seem to me like a good general contractor with an obviously technically enthusiastic senior manager.
You should accept the proposal to position the house oriented toward the eastern border. Bovine noises won’t be noticeably quieter three meters further away, and for cow odors, wind direction matters more than distance. Land is land, and it also has advantages after all. By the way, where exactly will the (parents-in-law) park in the future if they flatten their garage for your driveway? We will take a look at the house positioning. In the future, the parents-in-law will have their garage on the opposite side of the house, closer to the street without a long driveway.
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