ᐅ Floor Plan Design Single-Family Home, 1.5 Stories, 150 sqm – Feedback Welcome

Created on: 1 Apr 2022 22:57
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Narma89
Hello everyone,

We have our first appointment tomorrow to plan our house, and I have already started designing a bit and would appreciate your opinions.
So far, I have only completed the ground floor; the upper floor will include three bedrooms and a bathroom with a bathtub. The garage will probably serve more as storage space than as a parking area for cars.

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 2000 sqm (about 0.5 acres)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building envelope, building line and boundary: building envelope approximately 260 sqm (2800 sq ft)
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage/carport
Number of stories: 2
Roof type: gable roof or shed roof
Architectural style
Orientation: southeast
Maximum height/limits: 9 m (30 ft)
Additional requirements: maximum of two additional volumes, garage must be attached to the house

Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 stories (approximate meaning of “15 geschossig” as half story or attic space)
Number of occupants, age
Space requirements: about 90 sqm (970 sq ft) ground floor + 60 sqm (645 sq ft) upper floor
Office: family use or home office? no
Guest bedrooms per year: 2–3
Open or closed architecture: open plan
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island or counter without seating
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: 2
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons for choices: A bedroom with an en-suite bathroom is desired on the ground floor, initially to be used as a guest room and later as the main bedroom in old age.

House Design
Planner: myself
- Planner from construction company
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate from architect/planner: not yet available
Personal budget for the house including fixtures: €400,000 without land (except for heating and screed, theoretically everything else could be done as self-build)
Preferred heating system: heat pump with underfloor heating and ventilation system with heat recovery

If you had to give up on certain details or extensions
- What can you give up:
- What you cannot give up: 4 bedrooms, one full bathroom per floor, and a separate guest toilet on the ground floor.

Why is the design as it is now? For example:
Standard design from planner? First attempt to put our own wishes into a floor plan
Which wishes were realized by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?

Does the floor plan work as it is, or have I made some major mistakes?
We want to leave a part of the ground floor open up to the roof, possibly with a gallery. We are unsure whether the open part should be at the entrance area or partially above the living/dining area. We are uncertain which option makes more sense.
That is why planning the upper floor is difficult, figuring out how to accommodate the three bedrooms and the bathroom, and we would appreciate ideas.

PS: This concerns Lot 5, which was enlarged to 2000 sqm (about 0.5 acres) after purchase. Only the older plans show the access road and orientation. Only Lots 1 and 3 are built on, our friends bought Lot 4 and will build roughly at the same time, and the other lots have been meadows for over 20 years, unlikely to change soon.

Floor plan of a house: terraces, kitchen/dining/living room, bedroom, bathroom, toilet, garage; south.


Site plan with parcels; parcel 5 outlined in red, other parcels numbered.


Topographic map; red polygon marks two building zones (No. 4 and 5) on the plan.
gutentag2 Apr 2022 21:34
I’ve oriented the plan to the north and drawn in the house.

Technical drawing of a building plot with a red boundary line and blue buildings in the center.


It already looks quite good. There are hardly any alternatives within the building area.

There is about a 1 m (3 feet) height difference in the house area. I’m curious to see how the planner will handle that.

If the new survey plan differs, you can anonymize it and then post it here.
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Narma89
3 Apr 2022 00:12
ypg schrieb:

Dear @SoL, I don’t understand what you mean!
TE seems to be well informed about the plot – no more and no less.
Regarding the “slope”/1 meter… isn’t that something you usually mention?
As for house costs and 70% in EL… that’s not really considered realistic either. I find your comment misleading. It seems to show more certainty than is appropriate.

Here, I was only referring to my idea for the room layout, so I didn’t address what, from my understanding, is the slight slope. By chance, the company we visited today is going to build a house just 100m (330 feet) away, and they really have a slope (estimated about 10m (33 feet) drop over 25m (82 feet)), so when I drove past, I was already wondering how you’d place a house there. I’ve seen the plans and, as far as I can tell, they did a really good job.

Maybe I should have mentioned that this won’t be our first house. We have already completely renovated an old house. In that house, apart from the screed, heating system, front door, and windows, I did everything myself. I removed walls (including load-bearing ones based on a structural engineer’s calculations) and replaced them with 200x200mm (8x8 inch) oak beams, installed new drywall partitions, plastered, filled, lowered the entire ceiling (partly including insulation and vapor barrier under the roof terrace), tiled, installed new water pipes, fitted sanitary fixtures, completely renewed the electrical system including a smart home system, installed all new room doors, replaced basement windows, reactivated the old chimney and connected a panoramic fireplace (which was approved without issues by the chimney sweep as I involved him at every step), laid pipes for a central ventilation system, and certainly did some other things I don’t recall right now. So I know what it means to spend 15 months going to the construction site every day after work, every weekend, and the entire vacation to work hard. I made many mistakes that cost me time, but from those, I learned a lot, and in the end, the result was quite good. Due to personal circumstances, we decided to sell that house and now want to build our dream home on the new plot.

For those concerned, I know from my studies not only the theory behind electrical work but also, thanks to my profession (even if it’s not usually related to houses), I am actually allowed to carry out these works.

So when I say I could do everything myself except for screed and heating, I mean everything except the shell construction. Once the shell is on the base slab, the windows are installed, and the roof is covered, I could take over. It is definitely not my goal to do everything myself, but I prefer to invest my time and energy in the house rather than accept compromises by having a turn-key build full of concessions. I’m definitely glad that this time there is no demolition involved; scraping off 60-year-old wallpaper layers, removing over 60m³ (2,100 cubic feet) of construction debris and an additional 30m³ (1,060 cubic feet) of other waste already took a huge amount of time and effort.
gutentag schrieb:

There is about a 1 m (3 ft) height difference inside the house area. I’m curious to see how the planner will solve that.

I am curious as well. I briefly considered whether it might make sense to partially cellar the house and place the technical equipment and garage there. However, since we want to live barrier-free in the house when we are old and frail (at least on the ground floor), having the bedroom and bathroom on the ground floor is very important. If I already have to climb stairs to get from the garage into the house, that would completely defeat the purpose. I currently assume that they will add some backfill under the garage and the northern part of the house and then create a natural transition to the creek beds. This might also have the advantage that the excavation soil from the base slab would not need to be disposed of at additional cost.

One more question: does anyone have experience with dry screed, especially in combination with underfloor heating? The planner today said that in their houses dry screed is usually installed because with a timber frame house and traditional screed, you need to be careful during drying. It’s not impossible, but apparently, quite a few mistakes can be made.
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ypg
3 Apr 2022 02:24
Narma89 schrieb:

I’m definitely glad that this time there is no demolition involved. Scraping off 60-year-old layers of wallpaper and removing over 60m³ (78.5 cubic yards) of construction debris plus another 30m³ (39.2 cubic yards) of other waste from the house took a lot of effort and time.

Yes, a thankless task.
Narma89 schrieb:

It’s definitely not my goal to do everything myself, but I’d rather invest my time and energy into the house than accept compromises and have a turnkey home built full of compromises.

Well, there’s more than just black and white 😉
Narma89 schrieb:

I briefly considered whether it might make sense to partially build a basement under the house to accommodate technical equipment and the garage.

And such thoughts or questions could possibly be resolved by the forum community if you share this information in the forum along with your question.
Narma89 schrieb:

However, I want to be able to live barrier-free in the house when we are old and frail, at least on the ground floor, which is why the bedroom and bathroom on the ground floor are so important. But if I have to use stairs to get from the garage into the house, that would be completely counterproductive.

Oh! I wouldn’t have thought that!
A bathroom of 7m² (75 sq ft) and a toilet of 3m² (32 sq ft) can hardly be barrier-free.
I don’t see that mentioned in the completed questionnaire either, which should at least encourage some reflection.

When dealing with a house and renovations, one should know that walls and wall thicknesses can change a lot.
gutentag3 Apr 2022 08:41
I was considering a split-level design before the accessibility requirement was introduced.
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Ysop***
3 Apr 2022 09:19
@Narma89 I can relate to your renovation, as we are currently in the middle of the same process and will also be installing a dry screed with underfloor heating. Unfortunately, I don’t have any experience to share yet, but I’m happy to hear about yours 🙂 Wishing you lots of success with your new project!
gutentag3 Apr 2022 12:13
Here is the version with the terrain modeled.

Map plan with red outline, blue building section, and yellow area above.

Level 90 m (295 ft)

Green: fill material including the slope

Yellow: cut area shown without the slope. The slope then extends to the property boundary.

The driveway has a 10% gradient and then an incline.

The piping in the trench needs to be extended.