ᐅ Floor Plan Design for Living and Dining Area of 30 Square Meters

Created on: 6 Aug 2021 12:42
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moccanna
Hello everyone,

we are currently planning the living and dining area of our condominium. Construction has not started yet, so we have complete freedom regarding the connections and placement of the kitchen.

The floor plan of the room is somewhat challenging, and I’m not sure if we might be overcomplicating the initial planning. Therefore, we would greatly appreciate any tips on how to best design and divide the space.

The room needs to accommodate: kitchen, dining table, sofa + projector or TV.

Notes on the planning:
- The screen in the center is to be mounted on the ceiling and only lowered when watching movies.
- The table should be pushed all the way against the wall in normal use and only pulled further into the room when there are many guests, so that additional people can sit on the bench. (I have attached one version for 8 people and one for 6 people.)

Do you have any other ideas to make the best use of the space? The kitchen island is not absolutely necessary, but due to the pillar, the use of the room seems rather limited from my perspective.

Best regards and thanks for your help

2D floor plan with dimensions, window fronts, and passages


Floor plan: kitchen on the left, dining area at the top, sofa on the right, window front at the bottom.


Floor plan of a living and kitchen area: kitchen on the left, central kitchen island, dining table, green sofa on the right.
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moccanna
30 Jun 2023 08:37
To be honest, we haven't yet decided whether to keep the apartment and rent it out or to sell it.

Is it theoretically possible to "transfer" the financing if we find a suitable house? I assume the answer is no... 🙂

There are now really many offers for new single-family houses, semi-detached houses (and also building plots), which I even consider to be too cheap.
Many of them, however, follow the shell sale pattern shown by 11fant... There are also many offers for shell houses – I am somewhat concerned about the interfaces and delays, since the responsibility for coordination lies with the homeowner, right?
11ant30 Jun 2023 17:00
moccanna schrieb:

By now, there are really many offers for new single-family homes, semi-detached houses (and also building plots), which I even consider to be too cheap.
Many of them are in the unfinished sale patterns shown by 11fant... There are also many offers for shell homes – I have some respect for the coordination interfaces and delays since the responsibility lies with the builder, right?

A little misspelled, but at least they didn’t think about ants ;-)
Shell homes also come in different stages, such as "weather-tight" or "almost complete." Further coordination is usually your pleasure once the house has reached the agreed (in)complete stage. The main interface hurdle, in my view, is overcome if the construction contract includes the foundation slab (and its preparatory work).
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moccanna
1 Jul 2023 08:38
Sorry, I naturally associate your alias with an animal with a trunk.

I would say 60-70% of the offers for new builds are some kind of shell houses. I assume this is a tactic to be able to present reasonable prices. Can I send you one or two examples?
mayglow1 Jul 2023 10:35
moccanna schrieb:

I would say 60-70% of the offers for new builds are some kind of shell or basic finish homes. I assume this is a tactic to present reasonable prices.

I've noticed that too. I also suspect that a) it’s meant to make the price look more attractive and b) possibly the demand for this has increased. In other words, people today are more likely to consider shell homes or basic finishes than 1 1/2 years ago, when the standard response was more like "just take an extra 50,000 and have it done."
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BackSteinGotik
1 Jul 2023 11:25
mayglow schrieb:
I have noticed this as well. I also suspect that a) it’s partly to make the price look more attractive and b) possibly because demand for this has increased. So, currently, people are considering energy-efficient construction and similar options more than 1.5 years ago, when the standard response was more like “just take 50k more on and have it done.”

Yes, the days of lavish garden and landscaping work and turf installation funded with extra loans are probably over. Many of the previously considered “essential” luxury extras inside the houses are also likely to become less common.
11ant1 Jul 2023 15:51
mayglow schrieb:

I’ve noticed this as well. I also suspect that a) it’s partly to make the price appear more attractive, and b) possibly simply because the demand for it has increased.

What I called the “pre-sale bait” tactic combines third-party (!) land offers with affordable house models, so you are correct to some extent, but it is far from being used only with shell houses. The demand for explicit shell houses is growing, as is the demand for informal shell houses (general contractor builds the shell, and the builders take on the rest themselves, often struggling). How much of this is basically interest-rate-driven “voter shifting” is hard to determine.
BackSteinGotik schrieb:

Many of the previously “essential” luxury extras in houses will probably become less common as well.

Unfortunately, suggesting restraint when it comes to living space is still constantly dismissed as unreasonable. The phrasing “we need (!) 145 sqm” (about 1,565 sq ft) — mind you, for classic two adults, two children families — remains wide alive. People are still waiting for Godot (that is, post-COVID / post-Putin, the mortgage interest rates will surely drop again soon), and in the end, they end up with a loss for nothing by having to return the compulsory building plot to the municipality, instead of realizing their dream within their means. As if it were a failure not to move directly from Lindenstraße to Marienhof in one step ;-)
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