ᐅ Floor Plan Design for a Gable Roof House (Knee Wall Height 2.20 m) Approximately 170 sqm
Created on: 2 Nov 2021 15:01
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Bauwunsch85
Hello everyone,
We would appreciate your suggestions and ideas on our first floor plan draft.
Please excuse the unprofessional sketches, but we are still at the beginning and have our first meeting with a potential construction company next week.
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: 550 m² (5,920 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio (building coverage ratio): 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building boundaries, building line, and setbacks: 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation as shown in pictures (almost perfect north-south orientation)
Maximum heights / limits
Ridge height: 10 m (33 ft)
Eaves height at least 1.5 m (5 ft) lower than ridge height
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof house with a high knee wall 2.20 m (7 ft 3 in)
Basement, floors: no
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults and 1 child planned
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office? Both home offices
Guests sleeping per year: negligible
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes, garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why or why not for these elements
- Passage from garage to utility room for bringing dry groceries / beverage crates into the house
- 2 office options as both work from home
- Passage in front of the bed is sufficient for us; currently we only have 40 cm (16 inches) in front of a dresser with TV
- Wardrobe to be under the stairs (possibly enclosed)
- Child 2 room to serve as office / sports room
House design
Who created the planning:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Preferably an additional storage room
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: €395,000
Personal price limit for house including fittings: €500,000
Preferred heating system: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details / expansions can you do without?
- Can do without: fireplace
- Cannot do without: walk-in closet (storage for bed linen / towels for the house)
We would appreciate your suggestions and ideas on our first floor plan draft.
Please excuse the unprofessional sketches, but we are still at the beginning and have our first meeting with a potential construction company next week.
Zoning plan / restrictions
Plot size: 550 m² (5,920 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio (building coverage ratio): 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building boundaries, building line, and setbacks: 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation as shown in pictures (almost perfect north-south orientation)
Maximum heights / limits
Ridge height: 10 m (33 ft)
Eaves height at least 1.5 m (5 ft) lower than ridge height
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof house with a high knee wall 2.20 m (7 ft 3 in)
Basement, floors: no
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults and 1 child planned
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office? Both home offices
Guests sleeping per year: negligible
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes, garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why or why not for these elements
- Passage from garage to utility room for bringing dry groceries / beverage crates into the house
- 2 office options as both work from home
- Passage in front of the bed is sufficient for us; currently we only have 40 cm (16 inches) in front of a dresser with TV
- Wardrobe to be under the stairs (possibly enclosed)
- Child 2 room to serve as office / sports room
House design
Who created the planning:
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why? Preferably an additional storage room
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: €395,000
Personal price limit for house including fittings: €500,000
Preferred heating system: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details / expansions can you do without?
- Can do without: fireplace
- Cannot do without: walk-in closet (storage for bed linen / towels for the house)
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Bauwunsch854 Nov 2021 17:37Thank you very much for your clear words. We have returned to the city villa concept and have taken a look at the Maxime710II model because it appeals to us and already matches many of our ideas.
We would really appreciate it if you could take another look and maybe point out any potential pitfalls, as we have made some small changes here as well (for example, window arrangement, layout of the upper floor without a window in the corridor).
- Current dimensions are 10.10 x 10.10 m (33.1 x 33.1 ft)
- Staircase is 4 m (13.1 ft) long and 1 m (3.3 ft) wide
- The dining set is our current one, with all chairs pushed away from the table (measured)
- The symmetrical window arrangement in a city villa gives us headaches
- Another concern is where to place a small fireplace (would be nice for coziness)
- The office/guest room is intended for only one person to work; the other will work in the child 2/sports room
- All furniture corresponds to existing dimensions plus a small allowance
- The kitchen island has 80 cm (31.5 inches) space next to it and 1 m (39.4 inches) between the sink and the island
- Tall cabinets are present and house the refrigerator and oven (who still puts their oven under the cooktop? ;-) )
- Shower on the ground floor is for the dog and now more spacious, though yes, these space-saving showers still exist ;-)
- The upper floor has been altered from the original floor plan because we absolutely want natural daylight/windows in the corridor (which was not provided before)
- Bathroom and kitchen planning are not final but appeal to us as shown
- The wall beside the staircase is identical on both ground and upper floors (structural note)
- The often mentioned note about distance between bedroom and bathroom is not a concern since we have always had to change floors anyway; the main thing is that the children can get to the bathroom quickly
- Walk-in closet/dressing room has a window for cross-ventilation with the bedroom
- Passage from utility room to garage is requested
- All given dimensions are interior measurements (42.0 cm (16.5 inches) outer wall and 17 cm (6.7 inches) inner wall thickness)
- The wardrobe under the stairs is really enough for us!
Here are a few thoughts behind our considerations regarding "high knee wall" or city villa:
- We really like the construction method ("high knee wall") after visiting show homes and especially for something new
- Our south-facing orientation would be ideal for solar or photovoltaic panels on a large roof surface (per gable roof)
- No bay windows, ornaments, balconies, or projections as they add costs
- We prefer a gable roof since it is probably cheaper than a hip roof (can a 10 x 10 m (33.1 x 33.1 ft) house be realistically designed with a gable roof?)
- Daylight in the upper floor is important (usually only achievable with a large corridor, otherwise no windows and a small corridor)
- We have already given up on a platform staircase due to space constraints
- The visual axis through the house is important to us
We do not want a low-budget build but a reasonable price up to around 500,000 in a time when construction costs are unpredictable, hence our considerations. Otherwise, I find projecting bay windows and more depth in the house through varied dimensions very appealing, but we have consciously decided to forego these for now.
We would really appreciate it if you could take another look and maybe point out any potential pitfalls, as we have made some small changes here as well (for example, window arrangement, layout of the upper floor without a window in the corridor).
- Current dimensions are 10.10 x 10.10 m (33.1 x 33.1 ft)
- Staircase is 4 m (13.1 ft) long and 1 m (3.3 ft) wide
- The dining set is our current one, with all chairs pushed away from the table (measured)
- The symmetrical window arrangement in a city villa gives us headaches
- Another concern is where to place a small fireplace (would be nice for coziness)
- The office/guest room is intended for only one person to work; the other will work in the child 2/sports room
- All furniture corresponds to existing dimensions plus a small allowance
- The kitchen island has 80 cm (31.5 inches) space next to it and 1 m (39.4 inches) between the sink and the island
- Tall cabinets are present and house the refrigerator and oven (who still puts their oven under the cooktop? ;-) )
- Shower on the ground floor is for the dog and now more spacious, though yes, these space-saving showers still exist ;-)
- The upper floor has been altered from the original floor plan because we absolutely want natural daylight/windows in the corridor (which was not provided before)
- Bathroom and kitchen planning are not final but appeal to us as shown
- The wall beside the staircase is identical on both ground and upper floors (structural note)
- The often mentioned note about distance between bedroom and bathroom is not a concern since we have always had to change floors anyway; the main thing is that the children can get to the bathroom quickly
- Walk-in closet/dressing room has a window for cross-ventilation with the bedroom
- Passage from utility room to garage is requested
- All given dimensions are interior measurements (42.0 cm (16.5 inches) outer wall and 17 cm (6.7 inches) inner wall thickness)
- The wardrobe under the stairs is really enough for us!
Here are a few thoughts behind our considerations regarding "high knee wall" or city villa:
- We really like the construction method ("high knee wall") after visiting show homes and especially for something new
- Our south-facing orientation would be ideal for solar or photovoltaic panels on a large roof surface (per gable roof)
- No bay windows, ornaments, balconies, or projections as they add costs
- We prefer a gable roof since it is probably cheaper than a hip roof (can a 10 x 10 m (33.1 x 33.1 ft) house be realistically designed with a gable roof?)
- Daylight in the upper floor is important (usually only achievable with a large corridor, otherwise no windows and a small corridor)
- We have already given up on a platform staircase due to space constraints
- The visual axis through the house is important to us
We do not want a low-budget build but a reasonable price up to around 500,000 in a time when construction costs are unpredictable, hence our considerations. Otherwise, I find projecting bay windows and more depth in the house through varied dimensions very appealing, but we have consciously decided to forego these for now.
Upstairs, you have actually changed everything from your Maxime plan for the worse. Okay, the hallway now has a window, but in an emergency, a skylight, frosted glass, or a roof window could also serve as a window.
The gym room once again has unfavorable dimensions, and the walk-in closet consists of a T-junction on a rather narrow corridor, narrower than the depth of the wardrobes.
I don’t see why one would want to change a good design. I would rather think about where to place a nice coat rack.
Regarding your points with the dashes: many of them don’t make sense to me, and I feel like something changes every hour, at least compared to the first post.
Best example:
How many kids are you talking about?
Then suddenly a dog comes into the picture
Your first draft was full of symmetry...
And now a fireplace as well?
Give it a try!
The gym room once again has unfavorable dimensions, and the walk-in closet consists of a T-junction on a rather narrow corridor, narrower than the depth of the wardrobes.
I don’t see why one would want to change a good design. I would rather think about where to place a nice coat rack.
Regarding your points with the dashes: many of them don’t make sense to me, and I feel like something changes every hour, at least compared to the first post.
Best example:
Bauwunsch85 schrieb:
and above all, the kids need to get to the bathroom quickly
How many kids are you talking about?
Then suddenly a dog comes into the picture
Bauwunsch85 schrieb:
The symmetrical arrangement of windows in a townhouse causes headaches
- additional headaches about where to put a small fireplace (would be a wish for coziness)
Your first draft was full of symmetry...
And now a fireplace as well?
Bauwunsch85 schrieb:
Our south-facing orientation would simply be ideal for solar or photovoltaic panels on a large roof surface (per gable roof)
Bauwunsch85 schrieb:
Can you illustrate 10m by 10m with a gable roof?
Give it a try!
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Bauwunsch854 Nov 2021 19:51ypg schrieb:
And now a fireplace too? That was actually already included in the first draft 😉
ypg schrieb:
Then suddenly a dog comes into the picture Should I mention the cat as well? That only answers the question of who the downstairs shower is for.
ypg schrieb:
How many children are you talking about? One is planned, but no one knows beyond that. It could turn out to be twins or we might end up childless. Nobody knows, so a second child is planned for now. Otherwise, this room will be used as a gym and office, which is why we find the room layout acceptable.
ypg schrieb:
Your first draft was full of symmetry… Would the current arrangement also be visually balanced from the outside?
Nothing fundamentally new was added or removed from the original post; it was only meant to explain what is influencing us and why we are considering options between a knee wall house and an urban villa. I also find the upstairs hallway more livable if something can be placed there and a plant fits, rather than it just being a passage to the rooms — but that’s a matter of taste and we both didn’t care for it in the original Maxime 720II. By the way, the passage between the cabinets is 80cm (31.5 inches), which is wider than the cabinets are deep. ;-)
Bauwunsch85 schrieb:
Should I mention the cat as well?If you want to include its preferences too, then yes.B
Bauwunsch854 Nov 2021 19:58ypg schrieb:
If you also want to give her preferences, then yes.She is quite undemanding, but the 2x2 meter (6.5x6.5 feet) cat tree has to find space—just kidding 😉M
Myrna_Loy4 Nov 2021 20:33Bauwunsch85 schrieb:
She is quite undemanding, but the 2x2 meter (6.5x6.5 feet) scratching post has to fit, just kidding 😉An undemanding cat? Then it must be a dog.
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